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In the discussion thread: Obama: It’s time for Augusta golf club to admit women members [View all]

Sat Apr 7, 2012, 10:16 PM

MADem (87,261 posts)

83. Corporations take profits generated from people of both genders to fund a golf show broadcast on

a TV station granted a license to broadcast by the US government (which is an entity made up of people of both genders, of by and for people of both genders). The golf club from which the show emanates blatantly discriminates against half the American population.

I say Augusta needs to stop discriminating, or we need to stop broadcasting the MASTERS on network TV. And I think we need to let the corporate sponsors of the little shindig know how we feel.

When the Daughters of the American Revolution host a golf tournament sponsored by American corporations and broadcast over airwaves by a network granted an FCC license, and everyone rakes in millions as a consequence, then we can talk.

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134 replies	Author	Time	Post
Obama: It’s time for Augusta golf club to admit women members [View all]	kpete	Apr 2012	OP
I agree with him. It's backassward thinking to discriminate in this day and age.	MADem	Apr 2012	#1
I actually think this would be pretty easy for Romney to respond to.	Bonduel	Apr 2012	#74
What about other exclusionary clubs?	Puzzledtraveller	Apr 2012	#2
The Masters Club isn't comparable with other such clubs like Alpha Phi Alpha or	alp227	Apr 2012	#4
How? Just asking...	BadtotheboneBob	Apr 2012	#7
Augusta National Golf Club	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#11
Here's one article	NoGOPZone	Apr 2012	#14
Article just assumes there are no women members or that there is a no woman policy	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#16
Here's another article with the same 'assumption'	NoGOPZone	Apr 2012	#17
My point is you cannot find the bylaws	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#21
It is irrelevant (to nearly everyone except the RW appointees on the Supreme Ct) whether there is a	spooky3	Apr 2012	#56
Actually, someone is selling a copy of the 79 bylaws online.	MADem	Apr 2012	#80
I think he is calling attention to the issue	goclark	Apr 2012	#99
Romney agrees with Obama on this--for once.	MADem	Apr 2012	#102
Sounds like Mitt is trying to move more to the center	goclark	Apr 2012	#105
Shake, shake, shake,..... shake, shake, shake!	MADem	Apr 2012	#106
and here's one where the club chairman	NoGOPZone	Apr 2012	#18
From what I can see, they won't release their bylaws, but they clearly have a longstanding	cbayer	Apr 2012	#19
Every member gets a copy of the bylaws, in a cute little green booklet, every year.	MADem	Apr 2012	#89
This message was self-deleted by its author	NoGOPZone	Apr 2012	#61
No women. It's a founding premise.	MADem	Apr 2012	#76
His language was very careful.	MADem	Apr 2012	#75
But then they'd have to bring all their vagina stuff and they'd vagina all over the place.	Ian David	Apr 2012	#3
Serious question	DJ13	Apr 2012	#5
The issue is all over the news this year specifically because ....	JoePhilly	Apr 2012	#8
Heard a story about this yesterday.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#10
LOL	Iliyah	Apr 2012	#53
Corporations are People	coldbeer	Apr 2012	#72
If corporations are people, they shouldn't be discriminating against other people on public airwaves	MADem	Apr 2012	#81
Obama is daring Romney and Santorum to weigh in on this topic.	JoePhilly	Apr 2012	#6
Romney has agreed with Obama already.	MADem	Apr 2012	#78
Why is he commenting on this?	emilyg	Apr 2012	#9
Because the Republicans will need to respond too	shawn703	Apr 2012	#13
IMO - not presidential concern.	emilyg	Apr 2012	#15
Discrimination is not a presidential concern?	Skinner	Apr 2012	#20
There is discrimination and illegal discrimination	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#23
DU chooses its members based on their political ideology, not whether they have a penis.	Skinner	Apr 2012	#24
A private club can choose it's members based on all sorts of silly qualifications	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#25
Let's just bottom line this.	Skinner	Apr 2012	#26
Obama was smart to take the moderate -- not progressive position -- that he did.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#32
I believe they are holding the same opinion on this issue.	SlimJimmy	Apr 2012	#92
It is not a club I would join (but let's face facts they ain't inviting me).	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#33
"pools, gardens, tennis, a restaurant, social life and all that."	mac56	Apr 2012	#37
Stereotyping against country clubs?	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#38
Wow. Do you realize that a lot of business takes place on golf courses and that	cbayer	Apr 2012	#39
99.75% of golf courses allow women	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#42
Wrong. It does harm women.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#48
The short answer is there are many organizations that discriminate on all sorts of bases	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#51
What if the big meeting of the business you are engaged in is being held on the links at Augusta?	MADem	Apr 2012	#88
How do you feel about this scenario?	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#47
There are trade associations specifically for minority groups in all kinds of businesses.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#49
So, discrimination is okay because I MIGHT get invited in 10 years?	joeglow3	Apr 2012	#97
How about this scenario?	MADem	Apr 2012	#91
Women are allowed to play at ANGC, not be members.	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#96
Well, aren't they the lucky ducks! No problem, then! Silly things!	MADem	Apr 2012	#98
Exactly. And some businesses take deductions for their payments for memberships.	spooky3	Apr 2012	#55
In fact, the club was cowed into taking their first black member in 1990 because	cbayer	Apr 2012	#58
"It is not a club I would join"	PassingFair	Apr 2012	#93
Private golf club? yes.	emilyg	Apr 2012	#62
And if they were discriminating against African Americans...	Skinner	Apr 2012	#63
I wanted to ask the poster that question but didn't	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#67
I would certainly disapprove. But there is a difference	Bonduel	Apr 2012	#73
They got away with that until 22 years ago.	MADem	Apr 2012	#85
Corporations take profits generated from people of both genders to fund a golf show broadcast on	MADem	Apr 2012	#83
Freepers can stop being freezers ... not sure IBM's CEO can easily "change" ...	JoePhilly	Apr 2012	#27
^^^ Win ^^^	WilliamPitt	Apr 2012	#43
It's a private club. How about	emilyg	Apr 2012	#46
it is NOT a "private" club when businesses deduct membership costs, where advertising revenue is	spooky3	Apr 2012	#57
Of course it is	obamanut2012	Apr 2012	#66
And by staking out the moderate position, Obama is forcing Romney further right.	pnwmom	Apr 2012	#29
There is no daylight between Romney and Obama on this particular matter. None. nt	MADem	Apr 2012	#86
I think that's why he said it	Courtesy Flush	Apr 2012	#52
His press secretary was asked...	Drunken Irishman	Apr 2012	#64
Because Augusta SHOULD admit female members?	Arkana	Apr 2012	#65
Just to irritate you. nt	NYC Liberal	Apr 2012	#69
It's an issue. It matters. Remember Martha Burk? She's back.	MADem	Apr 2012	#82
Why, is there a law that says a president cant comment on it or on other issues?	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#114
Why would any woman want to join?	Redford	Apr 2012	#12
Because a lot of business takes place on golf course, particularly courses like this.	cbayer	Apr 2012	#31
As a member you can bring your business colleagues to play at one of the best courses in the USA.	MADem	Apr 2012	#87
When Eisenhower basically said he would enforce the law when it came to desegregating schools, it	merbex	Apr 2012	#22
Masters not Mistresses	CAPHAVOC	Apr 2012	#28
Did you really just say this?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#34
I shoulda brought a book, some tanning lotion, and a lawn chair.	CAPHAVOC	Apr 2012	#35
If they were slower players than you, why didn't you just ask them if you could play through?	cbayer	Apr 2012	#40
I am Joking you.	CAPHAVOC	Apr 2012	#41
We just played "over" them.	CAPHAVOC	Apr 2012	#50
It was a decidedly unfunny comment.	MADem	Apr 2012	#126
lol	harun	Apr 2012	#45
Its a private club	HooptieWagon	Apr 2012	#30
They went two years with no advertisers before	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#36
And how would you feel if they continued to block African Americans from membership, as they did at	spooky3	Apr 2012	#54
Please provide evidence	Sgent	Apr 2012	#60
Actually it is a private club and if they wanted to block someone from joining based on their skin	cstanleytech	Apr 2012	#115
You think those corporations would continue to sponsor without the ability to advertise on network	MADem	Apr 2012	#108
If you think the prize money is the only reason people compete in the Masters, you are extremely	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#109
No, I'm not "extremely unfamiliar with the tournament."	MADem	Apr 2012	#120
I'm not quite sure where your level of disdain comes from, but it is quite clear it is high.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#122
Her name is Burk, not Burke.	MADem	Apr 2012	#124
I find it interesting that you find that interesting.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#129
What does the "growth rate" of investing the purse have to do with the prize money? Answer-nothing.	MADem	Apr 2012	#128
Bill Gates is a member of ANGC, so is Warren Buffet (or so they say)	AngryAmish	Apr 2012	#118
Perhaps they can be persuaded to see why that's a bad move, if that is true.	MADem	Apr 2012	#119
Sweeet!!	Chakaconcarne	Apr 2012	#44
Thanks President Obama for being the wise adult in the room.	Dont call me Shirley	Apr 2012	#59
Is it ok for many Curves fitness centers to exclude men?	madville	Apr 2012	#68
I imagine many people either cannot or simply will not see the critical and relevant differences...	LanternWaste	Apr 2012	#79
I tend to think the reason it doesn't matter re: CURVES is because	MADem	Apr 2012	#101
When Curves holds a tournament sponsored by major US corporations, broadcast over FCC-licensed	MADem	Apr 2012	#90
I can just imagine if somebody like MoRon Paul were asked to comment on this.	Jamaal510	Apr 2012	#70
why do golfers continue to play in this tournament?	RainDog	Apr 2012	#71
Ridiculouos. So a 1% club will get forced to allow another 1% female to join, that's progress?	harun	Apr 2012	#84
HUGE PRIZE MONEY. Put up by corporations with male and female shareholders and customers--	MADem	Apr 2012	#103
I'm assuming you have some sort of professional or personal knowledge to back up your	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#112
Sure, whatever. This is the internet.	MADem	Apr 2012	#116
All your link provided was prize money stats.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#123
The money is the motivator.	MADem	Apr 2012	#127
This post should probably be deleted for implying I'm a Freeper or what not.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#130
It's the prestige. Despite what a few are claiming here, it is not only about the prize money.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#111
The point of it all, to me	RainDog	Apr 2012	#113
A million and a half bucks isn't chicken feed. It is about the money.	MADem	Apr 2012	#117
Of course it's not chicken feed. But anyone with a modicum of golf knowledge, specifically,	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#121
As I have iterated elsewhere, I don't find your arguments credible.	MADem	Apr 2012	#125
The club also couldn't give away tickets to the tournament 50 years ago.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#131
Whatever.	MADem	Apr 2012	#134
If Augusta ever had it's "major" status yanked, its clout and popularity would fall off a cliff	Blue_Tires	Apr 2012	#132
That's more plausible than reducing or removing the prize money.	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#133
read through the entire thread and replaced the word 'woman' with the word 'gay'.	LanternWaste	Apr 2012	#77
I'm a gay male, and was born and raised in Augusta (and still live here).	Hosnon	Apr 2012	#110
Being male	chervilant	Apr 2012	#94
As a female, I really don't care -	lynne	Apr 2012	#95
Do those "gals" clubs cut multi-million dollar deals with FCC licensed television stations?	MADem	Apr 2012	#104
well said. nt	La Lioness Priyanka	Apr 2012	#107
Screw Playing Golf With A Bunch Of Rich White Men	raindaddy	Apr 2012	#100

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