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(60,536 posts) Sun Jul 6, 2014, 11:43 AM Jul 2014

States look to gun seizure law after mass killings [View all]

Source: ASSOCIATED PRESS

HARTFORD, Conn. (AP) — As state officials across the country grapple with how to prevent mass killings like the one at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, some are turning to a gun seizure law pioneered in Connecticut 15 years ago.

Connecticut’s law was the first of its kind nationwide and was passed after the killings of four managers at the state lottery headquarters. It allows judges to order guns temporarily seized from people after police show they are a danger to themselves or others.

Indiana approved a similar law in 2005. And now California and New Jersey officials are debating gun seizure laws, both in the aftermath of the killings of six people near the University of California, Santa Barbara in May.

Gun rights advocates say such laws can violate people’s constitutional rights.

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Read more: http://www.salon.com/2014/07/06/states_look_to_gun_seizure_law_after_mass_killings/

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States look to gun seizure law after mass killings [View all] DonViejo Jul 2014 OP

Gun rights advocates advocate for domestic terrorists, who are also a danger to themselves or others onehandle Jul 2014 #1

+++ 1,000,000 +++ If some asshole walks into a store or wherever RKP5637 Jul 2014 #3

That not only makes my day, It'll make my whole week alot better. Hoppy Jul 2014 #6

I know I shouldn't say this packman Jul 2014 #18

lmao, what an idiot wordpix Jul 2014 #62

if this were the only kind of victim, the matter would take care of itself in short order yurbud Jul 2014 #83

... it seems like trying to win at Whac-A-Mole. Guns are so pervasive, it seems one would RKP5637 Jul 2014 #2

That sounds like no knock warrants, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2014 #4

They are free to give them up the easy way. mwrguy Jul 2014 #8

The hard way in this country, OneCrazyDiamond Jul 2014 #29

'Temporarily seized' is adequate. It's a safety measure like roping off a flooded street. freshwest Jul 2014 #5

"returned to use" - there is the problem DrDan Jul 2014 #9

so if the initial claim Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #13

Have a problem with due process? hack89 Jul 2014 #26

No problem with due process DrDan Jul 2014 #33

Just like 2A was supposed to make you safe. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #44

You mean 9000 gun homicides a year? hack89 Jul 2014 #47

We agree on lots of things Hack Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #49

Suicide is now homicide? hack89 Jul 2014 #50

Suicide is now homicide Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #54

Suicide is killing oneself, one being a human, hence the word "homicide" Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #55

Saying there were 30K homicides is disingenuous. hack89 Jul 2014 #56

So what laws would significantly reduce gun suicides? nt hack89 Jul 2014 #57

Apart from removing guns from the equation, I can't think of any. Can you? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #68

Adequate mental health coverage hack89 Jul 2014 #69

That would be wonderful if it could be accomplished Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #75

Any ideas on how to "remove guns from the equation" hack89 Jul 2014 #76

Yep, it is a tough one. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #79

twisted logic but wrong Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #61

It may be typical of the anti-gun side, which I do not belong to. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #63

"It may be typical of the anti-gun side, which I do not belong to." friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #64

Meaning what precisely? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #67

I doubted the veracity of your statement, and still do friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #70

What precisely do you think I'm being untruthful about? Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #74

yes, tell us what you're accusing him of lying about CreekDog Jul 2014 #81

He's not "antigun" as much as he is "anti people with guns" friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #84

not comfortable, but that at least would be true and not a lie Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #66

I've seen many court decisions where they are NEVER allowed to possess a firearm again, LOL. freshwest Jul 2014 #30

It does - thanks DrDan Jul 2014 #35

That is due process, which is fine hack89 Jul 2014 #36

Not only was Adam Lanza not thought to be a danger . . . toopers Jul 2014 #82

No, I suggest from the stories here, that his mother was on the verge of having him involuntarily freshwest Jul 2014 #85

I do not think this law would have applied in this case at all . . . toopers Jul 2014 #86

It's not ownership in that case. It's access. He would be removed from the guns. freshwest Jul 2014 #87

IT'S ABOUT TIME mwrguy Jul 2014 #7

I have no issue with this Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #10

Post removed Post removed Jul 2014 #11

Are you OK, you might just want to calm down Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #12

Guns are subcoscious symbolism for penis cosmicone Jul 2014 #16

for some it does seem to be Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #19

Especially on the RKBA side cosmicone Jul 2014 #40

you keep thinking that Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #41

The very fact that it bothers you so much is proof cosmicone Jul 2014 #59

No, it just means I call out the bullshit Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #60

The ratio of time spent on phallic imagery ... User_Friendly Jul 2014 #43

Well, for those who are obsessed with guns it is a subconscious fact. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #46

thanks Dr. Freud Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #52

Talk to someone who is anti-gun about it. Starboard Tack Jul 2014 #58

And I am sure you have all the academic studies to prove it. hack89 Jul 2014 #53

LoL. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #71

If you are a scientist cosmicone Jul 2014 #72

Honestly, I think the Penis jokes are projection. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #73

99.9% of drugs don't cause deaths cosmicone Jul 2014 #77

I just consider it childish. NutmegYankee Jul 2014 #80

I don't think the sports car is necessarily... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2014 #39

NuclearUnicorn is right: Some people shouldn't have guns. Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #22

yep nt Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #23

Two folks are ok with all of that? User_Friendly Jul 2014 #42

Here are the comments, classy is right Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #48

Control freaks tend to act out when they get frustrated... friendly_iconoclast Jul 2014 #65

Speaking of seizures, I think Wayne LaPierre just had one Personal Damon Jul 2014 #14

Wayne Lapierre's head is so far up his ass cosmicone Jul 2014 #17

how long before the Hitler comparisons are rolled out? Doctor_J Jul 2014 #15

Only after due process is followed bluestateguy Jul 2014 #20

What if someone's behavior strongly indicates violence is imminent? Distant Quasar Jul 2014 #38

Follow due process upon probable cause with warrants Eleanors38 Jul 2014 #21

Of course we all know that three of the six Duckhunter935 Jul 2014 #24

K&R! n/t billh58 Jul 2014 #25

Me too, and this story is appropriate for LBN. NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #32

Fortunately the police have a history of respecting civil liberties hack89 Jul 2014 #27

Coupled with NY's system of reporting potentially dangerous mental health patients hack89 Jul 2014 #28

cook county actively pursuing revoked foid card holders. mopinko Jul 2014 #31

The worst among these folks often self-identify, no? NYC_SKP Jul 2014 #34

that's the way he sees it. mopinko Jul 2014 #37

I think ''all sides'' should put down their arms. n/t DeSwiss Jul 2014 #45

They are still opposing it where a danger to self or society treestar Jul 2014 #51

I'm a gun control advocate, but this smells funny to me. Arkana Jul 2014 #78