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DonViejo

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Wed Jul 2, 2014, 11:18 AM Jul 2014

UPDATED: Big Win For Gun Control Groups: Target Bans Guns In Its Stores [View all]

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Source: TPM

ERIC LACH – JULY 2, 2014, 10:08 AM EDT

Target has finally made its decision about firearms in its stores. The retail giant is telling its customers to leave their guns at home.

"Our approach has always been to follow local laws, and of course, we will continue to do so," Target interim CEO John Mulligan said in a statement published by Target's in-house online magazine on Wednesday. "But starting today we will also respectfully request that guests not bring firearms to Target – even in communities where it is permitted by law."

Mulligan acknowledged what he called a "complicated issue," but said that, ultimately, he believes that guns in the stores "creates an environment that is at odds with the family-friendly shopping and work experience we strive to create."

With the move, Target became the latest in a recent flurry of retail chains to ban guns in its stores. Target stores, particularly in Texas, had in recent months become the focus of both guns rights and gun control activists, and both sides had used the stores and their parking lots as stages for gatherings and demonstrations. The Michael Bloomberg-backed group Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense, which had been calling for Target to explicitly keep guns out of its stores, took credit for Target's decision on Wednesday.

Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/target-bans-guns



UPDATE:

Gun Rights Activists Insist Target's Gun Ban Is 'Not A Ban'

ERIC LACH – JULY 2, 2014, 12:15 PM EDT

Dealt a loss by Target on Wednesday, gun rights activists were trying to find a consolation prize. The retail chain's newly announced policy asking customers to keep guns out of its stores is not a gun "ban," the activists said. It was a respectful "request."

"Open Carry Texas regrets Target's decision to 'respectfully request that guests not bring firearms to Target,'" Open Carry Texas, the group most associated with the fight over guns in chain stores, said in a Facebook post on Wednesday. "While this is not a ban on legally possessed firearms in its stores, we will continue to honor our months long policy of not taking long arms into Target stores or any other business."

This is a distinction without a difference. In his statement on Wednesday, Target interim CEO John Mulligan said that the company had decided to "respectfully request that guests not bring firearms to Target – even in communities where it is permitted by law," and further added that "bringing firearms to Target creates an environment that is at odds with the family-friendly shopping and work experience we strive to create."

It is true that Open Carry Texas announced weeks ago that its members would no longer take long guns, like semiautomatic rifles, into corporate businesses unless they were invited to do so. The group had made a habit of stopping at chain restaurants during demonstrations, and the change came after several chains took steps similar to the one taken by Target on Wednesday.

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kick OKNancy Jul 2014 #1
How is this a "win for gun control groups"? SansACause Jul 2014 #2
The gun control groups have been applying the pressure on Target... DonViejo Jul 2014 #4
So concern about gun nuttery is just about a narrow band of 'fringe groups?' onehandle Jul 2014 #9
Just what are you "just wondering"? DonViejo Jul 2014 #14
I got the impression that the person I was responding to was implying that. onehandle Jul 2014 #15
Ah, okay, it wasn't clear to me just who you were addressing your comment to. DonViejo Jul 2014 #18
Open Gun Carriers are Terrorists LynneSin Jul 2014 #3
+1000 TeamPooka Jul 2014 #6
Yep. Terrorism doesn't mean a pulled trigger or an exploded bomb. onehandle Jul 2014 #11
In my opinion, jerks like these who insist on parading around showing off their massacre machines calimary Jul 2014 #26
I know a few guys with serious gun collections and they are good guys... LynneSin Jul 2014 #80
Extremely well said! RKP5637 Jul 2014 #77
Good. Hope it's start of trend eventually impacting public toting and perception of gun fanciers. Hoyt Jul 2014 #5
Public perception of idiots billh58 Jul 2014 #33
KnR Hekate Jul 2014 #7
Great News colsohlibgal Jul 2014 #8
The law (in my state) says frazzled Jul 2014 #10
K&R! billh58 Jul 2014 #12
How is this a win? IronGate Jul 2014 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author ReRe Jul 2014 #13
Uhhhh, Target doesn't sell guns or ammo. IronGate Jul 2014 #17
Ah! ReRe Jul 2014 #23
No problem. IronGate Jul 2014 #25
"Big win"? "ban"? VScott Jul 2014 #16
Nowhere in that press release is Target banning the carrying of firearms in it's stores. IronGate Jul 2014 #19
This message was self-deleted by its author onehandle Jul 2014 #20
That no hurt me gun likey onehandle Jul 2014 #21
It's actually a very small win. Hardly a "win" at all. 6000eliot Jul 2014 #22
Yes, very mealy-mouthed PR. bvf Jul 2014 #41
This is a good thing. CreekDog Jul 2014 #24
+100 billh58 Jul 2014 #29
Target has said nothing about concealed carry, IronGate Jul 2014 #31
A few years ago, I got a conceal carry gun humper thrown out of a mall. onehandle Jul 2014 #61
Yeah, so? IronGate Jul 2014 #62
He looked a lot like this guy. onehandle Jul 2014 #63
You really shouldn't post selfies, IronGate Jul 2014 #66
If enough of the store's customers complained, HockeyMom Jul 2014 #78
You are both sexist and anti-american JohninPA Jul 2014 #81
I shop at Target. And if I see someone armed, I am walking out. So, this was a smart move McCamy Taylor Jul 2014 #28
Target gets my business for sure. hlthe2b Jul 2014 #30
There will still be plenty of guns in Target hack89 Jul 2014 #32
Yes, selfish gun lovers will still carry, ignoring wishes of Target and other patrons who prefer to Hoyt Jul 2014 #38
I was thinking more of criminals and others that illegally carry hack89 Jul 2014 #40
Not nearly as common as the gun fanciers seem to believe. Hoyt Jul 2014 #42
So all those murders and other killings hack89 Jul 2014 #43
Most of the gunz used started out as a legal purchase by some yahoo who probably already has Hoyt Jul 2014 #45
So tell me hack89 Jul 2014 #48
Just so simpletons ask that question. :) Cracks me up every time. Hoyt Jul 2014 #49
I have noticed you will never answer a question straight up hack89 Jul 2014 #51
He's also pissed that he got a 90 day time out at Discussionist IronGate Jul 2014 #52
Glad to know you are watching. What's your user name there? Hoyt Jul 2014 #57
Watching? IronGate Jul 2014 #60
Because they are the ones arming up and promoting more gunz in more places. Hoyt Jul 2014 #56
So people actually killing people is not what upsets you hack89 Jul 2014 #72
+100 n/t billh58 Jul 2014 #55
I am not sure why this rates any type of announcement. energumen Jul 2014 #34
depends on local laws if they Niceguy1 Jul 2014 #79
More good news today for gun control groups SecularMotion Jul 2014 #35
+100 billh58 Jul 2014 #37
Me likey BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #53
Good for Target! sinkingfeeling Jul 2014 #36
Good for TARGET. This should put the Libertarian wingnuts on notice about their other fetish: freshwest Jul 2014 #39
Hey, open-carry nuts - kinda sucks for you when "market forces" react and turn bullwinkle428 Jul 2014 #44
I'll have to boycott Target. Turbineguy Jul 2014 #46
Pretty depressing what qualifies as "good news" these days RufusTFirefly Jul 2014 #47
This may spread to the point where carrying a firearm will be a major inconvenience. drm604 Jul 2014 #50
Business is just protecting profit BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #54
Most companies have similar bean counters. Hoyt Jul 2014 #58
Yes, I'm glad they do BrotherIvan Jul 2014 #59
Carrying a damn AR is an inconvenience in itself sir pball Jul 2014 #67
So cops can't go in for anything? Reter Jul 2014 #64
Cops carrying guns is normal. onehandle Jul 2014 #65
You would support arming the most violent and enabled members of society. sir pball Jul 2014 #68
-Minus 1. Hoyt Jul 2014 #71
I'm pretty sure that this doesn't apply to the police. drm604 Jul 2014 #73
Glad to hear this davidpdx Jul 2014 #69
I hope the gunners boycott: I'd prefer not to see these shitheads alcibiades_mystery Jul 2014 #70
Go carry in Walmart duck commanders. GOLGO 13 Jul 2014 #74
It is also a win for most gun owners hack89 Jul 2014 #75
Excellent, because a number of gun owners have consistently demonstrated they RKP5637 Jul 2014 #76
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