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mother earth

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99. The failure is in the fight...you don't understand the crusader mind.
Mon Mar 26, 2012, 05:58 PM
Mar 2012

Separation of church and state will never be won through ridicule and mockery.
Mockery and ridicule are bullying tactics, and it's exactly what comes across to the public.
Comedians can get away with it, but if you want something lasting it will be won through reason.
Good title for the rally, sad it got sidelined and ultimately the message is minimized & lost.

And here's a little Godly Golf for your entertainment: man4allcats Mar 2012 #1
The tragic part about this story... Archae Mar 2012 #2
They have been taught to. We are evil, because we dare think. ChairmanAgnostic Mar 2012 #35
This message was self-deleted by its author abq e streeter Mar 2012 #3
Rational ignorance onwardsand upwards Mar 2012 #4
"In the technological age, the nerds rule" -- not quite! LongTomH Mar 2012 #11
Sure onwardsand upwards Mar 2012 #37
99% of people tama Mar 2012 #51
Here is another take on the rally Celebration Mar 2012 #5
Under Florida's "stand your ground" law, AlbertCat Mar 2012 #13
Ridicule and contempt Celebration Mar 2012 #27
You're right. 100%. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #45
I know that Celebration Mar 2012 #49
I didn't say it was an excuse. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #52
And visa versa. All haters should just shut up. Even the atheist haters...... marble falls Mar 2012 #64
You're right. OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #116
If you think that the conservatives are christian as opposed to using "Christians" ... marble falls Apr 2012 #117
No, because they don't rail against me. OrwellwasRight Apr 2012 #118
And this isn't a hate message ...... marble falls Apr 2012 #120
Right, no Christian have ever slurred atheists, OrwellwasRight Apr 2012 #121
Yes it is, people need to let their stupid beliefs be known.. snooper2 Mar 2012 #66
Oh another person neglected to learn Celebration Mar 2012 #81
Nah, not on this issue... snooper2 Mar 2012 #82
But of course, you believe in your own versions of "sky fairies." LTX Mar 2012 #115
I missed the news coverage of this yesterday underpants Mar 2012 #6
It's good to see the faith of Atheism finally coming together for services. onehandle Mar 2012 #7
I love it when people try to insult atheism by calling it a faith. dmallind Mar 2012 #10
It's because religions are insulted. Zax2me Mar 2012 #12
Live. Let live. AlbertCat Mar 2012 #14
Don't complain you are being attacked while attacking. AlbertCat Mar 2012 #15
Lol. JoeyT Mar 2012 #16
I'm sorry, religions are insulted by the existence of atheism? OrwellwasRight Mar 2012 #48
Live and let live? callous taoboy Mar 2012 #62
So what do you believe in? You follow one god or multiple? snooper2 Mar 2012 #68
You must have forgotton the GHW Bush quote of 1987. KansDem Apr 2012 #119
Belief and Non-Belief are both believing. onehandle Mar 2012 #18
You require no faith to not believe something until evidence comes in... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #25
I've stated no absolute faiths. onehandle Mar 2012 #30
Oh, you are creating a strawman, ok, I see, why not deal with real people in the real world? Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #31
Amen. Tell it like it is! nt onehandle Mar 2012 #42
I know you are attempting to mock, you are also failing badly. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #67
I forgive you, brother. onehandle Mar 2012 #79
Nice point onwardsand upwards Mar 2012 #36
You're wrong. jeff47 Mar 2012 #55
Do you have faith in your statement? nt onehandle Mar 2012 #78
Atheism is not having a belief that god exists, it is doubt, how can you misrepresent it this badly? Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #65
Doubt = agnostic jeff47 Mar 2012 #80
Really? Agnostic = without knowledge... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #85
Back at ya jeff47 Mar 2012 #90
You last sentence is nonsensical, basically you mean that all agnostics have to be theists... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #100
You do realize the post is still there, right? jeff47 Mar 2012 #102
Sorry, misread it, however, the my other point still stands, your last sentence is nonsensical. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #103
You're welcome to petition the dictionary folks to change their definition. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2012 #105
I'm just saying if you stick with the dictionary definition, then atheists don't exist... Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #108
Sophistry pscot Mar 2012 #38
That is absurd... and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #41
I can believe that or not. onehandle Mar 2012 #44
The absence of something is not the same as something scheming daemons Mar 2012 #57
No. Atheism is denying the existence of God. onehandle Mar 2012 #61
So not only are you misrepresenting atheism, but skepticism in general? Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #69
sorry.. you don't get to redefine the english language to suit your needs scheming daemons Mar 2012 #84
Right one is belief in God. One is belief in no God. onehandle Mar 2012 #88
No, one is a belief in a god, the other is a lack of(non) belief in a god. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #89
that's simply not the definition in any english dictionary scheming daemons Mar 2012 #91
Ok, really? JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #58
I couldn't disagree more. callous taoboy Mar 2012 #63
Do you think white dwarfs exist? Do you know anything about the inner core? snooper2 Mar 2012 #71
I have a God? Please prove they exist or don't exist. onehandle Mar 2012 #75
LOL ROFL snooper2 Mar 2012 #76
Never met the gentlemen. (although Gozer took female form) onehandle Mar 2012 #77
scientifically, the burden of proof is always on those making the positive assertion scheming daemons Mar 2012 #86
I have never asserted any such thing. onehandle Mar 2012 #87
now you are just being silly scheming daemons Mar 2012 #92
Another way to put it scheming daemons Mar 2012 #93
Wrong. Faith is belief without proof. Arugula Latte Mar 2012 #113
Do you believe there is no God? onehandle Mar 2012 #114
Faith is what atheists find repugnant. nt valerief Mar 2012 #20
No, actually its irrationalism and dogmas and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #43
Faith means no reason. nt valerief Mar 2012 #54
No, the imposition of faith is repugnant. jeff47 Mar 2012 #56
No. Believing something with no evidence for no good reason is repugnant. That's faith. nt valerief Mar 2012 #112
Fail. and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #46
Religion has been the cause of thousands of wars and battles throughout world history fasttense Mar 2012 #8
Stalinism and Maoism was not Atheism, but millions of religious people did die. onehandle Mar 2012 #19
Religion's purpose is to keep laborers ignorant. nt valerief Mar 2012 #21
Nothing to do with me. nt onehandle Mar 2012 #23
I was there, standing right up at the front. gadjitfreek Mar 2012 #9
I don't think we need to fear becoming a theocracy. I'm pretty sure we are one now. nt valerief Mar 2012 #22
Minchin's song was terrific, btw! Thanks for the link. nt valerief Mar 2012 #24
loopholes mimi85 Mar 2012 #26
I recorded and watched Chris' show this morning, as I do every weekend. classof56 Mar 2012 #28
K&R. Glad to hear it. Overseas Mar 2012 #17
I consider myself an atheist/reasonist. SpankMe Mar 2012 #29
Nah. You should be smug and insulting. onehandle Mar 2012 #40
I think AronRa and Seth (of The Thinking Atheist) were invited as speakers sakabatou Mar 2012 #32
Being reasonable is direly needed in the atheist community. I am glad to see it being mother earth Mar 2012 #33
tolerance of everything? Seriously? Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #34
I mean there is a lack of tolerance in this rally. I'm all for freedom of speech and for all to mother earth Mar 2012 #50
So we shouldn't tolerate everything. What is intolerable? Warren Stupidity Mar 2012 #53
The call to ridicule and show contempt. It's the same thing Limbaugh does, Coulture, mother earth Mar 2012 #60
Oh please, comparing them to those groups? Look at how unreasonable you sound. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #70
Hate is hate. You know I listened to video and was finding much of it quite reasonable til we got to mother earth Mar 2012 #94
I didn't see the hate, you are confusing attacks on beliefs with attacks on people. n/t Humanist_Activist Mar 2012 #101
No call to hate, just to mock and ridicule, and maybe even feel sorry for them snooper2 Mar 2012 #72
So you are going to devote (waste) your time to mock & ridicule? And you pity them???? mother earth Mar 2012 #96
Unfortunately, "live and let live" has not worked. jeff47 Mar 2012 #83
You have a great point, separation of church and state...but, sinking to the level and idiocy of mother earth Mar 2012 #97
We've done exactly what you propose for decades jeff47 Mar 2012 #98
The failure is in the fight...you don't understand the crusader mind. mother earth Mar 2012 #99
I was there the entire day... and-justice-for-all Mar 2012 #39
Sometimes it takes a lifetime to make it to Mecca. onehandle Mar 2012 #47
Likening it to a pilgrimage? JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #59
arguing Locrian Mar 2012 #74
In the history of our country there has only been one open atheist in Congress? zinnisking Mar 2012 #73
Who? Neoma Mar 2012 #95
What zinnisking Mar 2012 #104
Who was the only atheist? Neoma Mar 2012 #106
K zinnisking Mar 2012 #107
Pete Stark! JNelson6563 Mar 2012 #109
hehehe zinnisking Mar 2012 #111
Wonderful. I'd like to see more of this. Boudica the Lyoness Mar 2012 #110
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