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In the discussion thread: Dennis Kucinich offers no support for Marcy Kaptur after primary defeat [View all]

Fri Mar 23, 2012, 04:01 PM

37. Then perhaps they should stop issuing threats and ultimatums and just do it?

It's akin to a temper tantrum. If a few folks choose to take their ball & go home b/c they lost, then that's childish, and all too emblematic of our current "My Way or No Way" Congress. You don't have to acknowledge it, but the Democrat who actually won the primary, will likely win the general, and most of us think that's a good thing.

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Dennis Kucinich offers no support for Marcy Kaptur after primary defeat [View all]	Freddie Stubbs	Mar 2012	OP
That's typical of Kucinich	Renew Deal	Mar 2012	#1
yup, the kind of thing that made me	mopinko	Mar 2012	#6
Kaptur played dirty	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#20
Calm down, people. The freepers are snickering.	truthisfreedom	Mar 2012	#100
On HR 3632.	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#108
HR 3632? Don't you mean HR 3606?	onenote	Mar 2012	#112
Nov. 2011.	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#143
Kaptur and most of the Progressive Caucus voted for the bill	onenote	Mar 2012	#151
"Another bill as terrible as was the repeal of Glass Steagall"	grantcart	Mar 2012	#116
Both sides were real dirty. Don't forget, "You just can't trust Marcy Kaptur."	joshcryer	Mar 2012	#137
I lost a lot of respect for Marcy Kaptur in this race also. I guess I didn't know that much about	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#152
you mean he doesn't like to be slandered for no reason? Yeah, typical of him.	DisgustipatedinCA	Mar 2012	#74
Here' s proof the Blue Dogs are ready to Pontificate. When they don't know the facts.	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#146
This is not "news", in the context of "latest breaking news" eom	Kolesar	Mar 2012	#2
is the outcome to this race being contested by him	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#3
It wasn't close. n/t	ColesCountyDem	Mar 2012	#10
wow.. you're right--it wasn't even close	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#33
Does this make DK a PUMA?	onenote	Mar 2012	#65
I wouldn't know what would make Kucinich a puma, nor was it my point.	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#144
There is no evidence that the results of the primary were "fishy"	onenote	Mar 2012	#150
take it up with Brad Blog	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#160
i responded to the thread on which BradBlog claimed the results were fishy	onenote	Mar 2012	#161
I'm not.	SemperEadem	Mar 2012	#163
My mistake. Since you addressed it in your post I thought you were interested. n/t	onenote	Mar 2012	#164
I'm sorry that two great progressives were forced into the same district.	ColesCountyDem	Mar 2012	#71
what a bitter little freak	Champion Jack	Mar 2012	#4
If you actually SAW it on The Young Turks last night,	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#11
That "bitter little freak" had been working his butt off for you	Auggie	Mar 2012	#18
He does not speak for me	Champion Jack	Mar 2012	#23
This is the classic DK thread. People who didn't even see the interview	EFerrari	Mar 2012	#47
You stay classy, Dennis	Orrex	Mar 2012	#5
Marcie Kaptur is really a working Democratic Congresswoman	BlueToTheBone	Mar 2012	#7
Glass-Steagall	magic59	Mar 2012	#75
she voted to repeal?	BlueToTheBone	Mar 2012	#128
Along with more than 150 other Democrats.	onenote	Mar 2012	#129
yeah, so what if 150 other democrats voted for repeal	newspeak	Mar 2012	#189
leaving aside your hypothetical	onenote	Mar 2012	#190
It's hard to justify this...	orwell	Mar 2012	#8
There's stuff that conspicuously is not in the article.	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#13
Can you fill in the blanks (with a link of course)?	MH1	Mar 2012	#16
Not at this moment	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#51
Is this the video that you said doesn't exist?	onenote	Mar 2012	#69
the cool thing about DU3 is that videos can be embedded in ANY forum!	alp227	Mar 2012	#87
What justifies Kucinich's refusing to say anything is	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#89
DK was asked a simple question: should voters in the district vote for Kaptur	onenote	Mar 2012	#101
No it's not.	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#113
His party nominated someone. There was no fraud. He is refusing to support his party.	onenote	Mar 2012	#117
That's YOUR opinion...	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#119
A Democrat staying "neutral" with respect to the Democratic party nominee	onenote	Mar 2012	#120
As long as one believes that all issues are black and white, it is.	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#133
Your belief doesn't trump fact.	onenote	Mar 2012	#138
Somone needs to send him an olive with the pit still in. nt	Phoonzang	Mar 2012	#9
And the fact that the GOP was able to gerrymander this conflict into being...	dorksied	Mar 2012	#12
Agreed.	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#15
Oh, really?	Ikonoklast	Mar 2012	#183
Classic GOP Tactic	magic59	Mar 2012	#78
They are even doing it right here on DU.	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#187
Blue Dogs on DU never miss an opportunity to shit on progressives.	yurbud	Mar 2012	#14
I notice that every day.	Hun Joro	Mar 2012	#17
Which is as typical of them as is when they themselves editorialize of Kucinich, "how typical..."	LanternWaste	Mar 2012	#19
Why do you assume that it's "blue dogs"? This is bad form, no matter what your politics.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#21
She wants the support of Dennismaniacs	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#24
She has to work for all her constituents, old & new. Don't be pissed at Marcy, she didn't....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#28
Its more than just the gerrymander..	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#36
Then follow your heart.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#41
Do we forgive those who gave us Glass Steagall.	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#72
A "Democratic" president signed Glass Stegall into law.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#90
So 155 of the 211 Democrats in the House at the time cast an "unforgivable" vote?	onenote	Mar 2012	#118
you mean the repeal of Glass Steagall?	yurbud	Mar 2012	#188
The OP is a blue dog	JonLP24	Mar 2012	#30
I guess I should've asked why he thought it was JUST blue dogs? It isn't. (nt)	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#34
So other than blue dogs that aren't Republicans never miss an opportunity to shit on progressives?	JonLP24	Mar 2012	#35
For me, it isn't even about his policy positions. It's HIM. I have an aversion to HIM. I'm.....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#40
first of all, your previous posts indicate you are a Blue Dog	provis99	Mar 2012	#43
Wrong! But guess what? I don't have to prove anything to you.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#49
here you are telling liberals to shut up.	provis99	Mar 2012	#53
And you know they're "liberal" because?????	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#58
here you are complaining liberals infest DU.	provis99	Mar 2012	#55
And I stand by every post. Which is why I posted them in the first place.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#59
here you are hating liberal icon Hamsher.	provis99	Mar 2012	#56
"Icon"?	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#61
now that post(that you replied to) i think is a perfect example	Bodhi BloodWave	Mar 2012	#109
"can't take the said poster to serious". Trust me, I never did.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#123
i tend to give people a fair chance until something like that gets posted	Bodhi BloodWave	Mar 2012	#126
It's all part of the disinformation campaign that has taken the internetz by storm. Hamsher &.....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#127
the somewhat hypocritical thing about that partnership tho	Bodhi BloodWave	Mar 2012	#130
Yup. "He Caved" is an all too familiar refrain around these parts. Bipartanship is bad.....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#141
Really? I assume, and hope you are speaking only for yourself.	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#157
Obviously speaking for myself as thats the only person whose views i can know and speak of as such	Bodhi BloodWave	Mar 2012	#176
Thanks, I wasn't trying to change your mind, just offering my own opinion as I saw	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#182
Hamsher, the Hillary shill?	joshcryer	Mar 2012	#84
omg! lolz!	JNelson6563	Mar 2012	#131
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooolz	Drunken Irishman	Mar 2012	#140
"Liberal icon"?	Arkana	Mar 2012	#148
you know what? I think I'll put a Third Way dem like you	provis99	Mar 2012	#57
Oh, please don't go away mad,.......!	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#60
What happens when you capitulate, on "middle ground,"	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#135
The article isn't specific at all	JonLP24	Mar 2012	#44
My assessment of Dennis comes mainly from what I've seen of him in the national media.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#54
Well pretty much everyone involved in national politics has a devoted following	JonLP24	Mar 2012	#62
I don't really disagree with you, and thanks for the grownup conversation.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#68
I've met Kucinich and he supports Obama. When people in the crowd were trying to diss Obama over the	freshwest	Mar 2012	#132
Fresh, that's one helluva post, and while I agree with most of it, I still have issues.....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#142
That's just it, you can't GET	NorthCarolina	Mar 2012	#80
Not a big fan of the Blue Dogs, but WTF are you to determine who should & should not....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#92
I disagree. Repub.	Kingofalldems	Mar 2012	#38
You mean the OP was posting with a purpose?	Kingofalldems	Mar 2012	#22
Not supporting the Democratic nominee is not a very progressive attribute	Freddie Stubbs	Mar 2012	#31
You are conflating "Democratic" with "progressive'. Of course. n/t	EFerrari	Mar 2012	#45
This message was self-deleted by its author	onenote	Mar 2012	#64
Yup. nt	Poll_Blind	Mar 2012	#67
No, it's not all blue dogs.	tabasco	Mar 2012	#77
Progresives get things done, you know, progress.	joshcryer	Mar 2012	#82
What can Kaptur do for Cleveland? She's in Toledo! If I were Dennis, I wouldn't support her either.	NEOBuckeye	Mar 2012	#25
What could Kucinich do for Toledo? He's in Cleveland!	Freddie Stubbs	Mar 2012	#32
The Toledo vote for DK	du_grad	Mar 2012	#95
I got gerrymandered out of Marcy's district, too.	Bill McBlueState	Mar 2012	#185
Sideshow Bob Latta...	du_grad	Mar 2012	#191
This message was self-deleted by its author	du_grad	Mar 2012	#96
Dennis needs to join another party.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#26
So be it..	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#27
Then perhaps they should stop issuing threats and ultimatums and just do it?	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#37
I have a better idea	NorthCarolina	Mar 2012	#81
You have much in common with the Tea Party. Moderation is a dirty word now.	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#93
It's astonishing some people still think there is little difference between Dems and GOPers..	DCBob	Mar 2012	#102
Here here!	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#134
I dont agree our party has "drifted to the right".	DCBob	Mar 2012	#145
That's the same line that RepubliCONs take	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#165
Cheap shot calling me a Republican.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#167
Read it again...	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#171
I'm old enough to remember the infuriating ways in which some Congressional Dems	Lydia Leftcoast	Mar 2012	#184
+1	a2liberal	Mar 2012	#177
I agree.	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#39
Kucinich is no Howard Dean.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#103
Did I say that?	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#105
Ok understood.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#107
I think that's the good and bad thing about the party.	harmonicon	Mar 2012	#110
True, Kucinich is more progressive. But Dean is a good Democrat also.	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#153
He is just more extreme..	DCBob	Mar 2012	#154
Yes, supporting Universal HC is extreme.	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#156
Its not necessarily his policy positions, its his refusal to compromise.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#159
And sometimes you don't compromise. You never, ever compromise on illegal wars but too many of our	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#162
There is always room to compromise.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#168
Yes, so why did our Representatives NOT compromise on these issues?	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#172
OF course there are obvious situtations where one cannot compromise.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#178
Actually I dont want anyone to leave the party.	DCBob	Mar 2012	#48
Wow.	tabasco	Mar 2012	#79
no they won't. look, I like Dennis a lot	cali	Mar 2012	#86
You're right. He doesn't just roll over. Bad fit. n/t	EFerrari	Mar 2012	#46
How about just not bashing the Democratic candidate??	DCBob	Mar 2012	#104
Which one?	Major Hogwash	Mar 2012	#63
Be careful what you wish for.	2ndAmForComputers	Mar 2012	#179
Marcy is no saint. Do the research.	peace13	Mar 2012	#29
This post was hidden by jury decision.	provis99	Mar 2012	#42
^^^This^^^	NorthCarolina	Mar 2012	#85
soo, since i think Kucinich has good ideas but is useless in actually realizing them	Bodhi BloodWave	Mar 2012	#111
It is my long standing belief that they are	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#136
Do you believe that the 76 percent of the voters that preferred Kaptur	onenote	Mar 2012	#139
No, however I do believe	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#169
the vote totals are completely consistent with the historical results	onenote	Mar 2012	#174
'eat their own'	Bill McBlueState	Mar 2012	#186
The time to address a campaign....	sendero	Mar 2012	#50
One of the REeasons it's important to Vote Democrat, but we always get the same ones	JI7	Mar 2012	#52
Simple question: if DK had won the primary and Kaptur refused to endorse him	onenote	Mar 2012	#66
I suspect all those criticizing Dennis now..	DCBob	Mar 2012	#70
Correct.	joshcryer	Mar 2012	#83
If Kaptur had been called corrupt by association	cyclezealot	Mar 2012	#73
Not surprising.	tabasco	Mar 2012	#76
Sore loser.	Odin2005	Mar 2012	#88
I see a lot of mud thrown at Dennis here. I see zero SUBSTANCE refuting the charge he makes.	Jim Lane	Mar 2012	#91
or Republican levels of POLICY	yurbud	Mar 2012	#94
After reading all of these replies, I can't help but wonder	du_grad	Mar 2012	#97
she will win without his support	JI7	Mar 2012	#98
Even if she is a DINO!	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#114
So anyone who doesn't agree with you is a DINO?	onenote	Mar 2012	#124
Spam deleted by Ian David (MIR Team)	Global Teach-In	Mar 2012	#99
Politics is not a game for the thin-skinned.	baldguy	Mar 2012	#106
Is it about you or about the country?	Fearless	Mar 2012	#115
Many Blue Dogs, aka DINOs here are dissing the most progressive member of the House..	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#121
The most progressive member of the House is refusing to support his party's nominee	onenote	Mar 2012	#122
Dennis is a diva	janet118	Mar 2012	#147
The 2004 Iowa caucus	XemaSab	Mar 2012	#149
Really? Barney Frank and Alan Grayson both endorsed Kucinich, BECAUSE he works well others.	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#158
Proving that local endorsements will trump national endorsements almost every time	onenote	Mar 2012	#170
I was responding to the notion that he was 'hard to work with'. Clearly some of the most prominent	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#173
I don't think people should be lectured on "divisiveness" from someone who just posted this....	Tarheel_Dem	Mar 2012	#125
The Freepers who normally troll the site must be having a jolly good time.	Beacool	Mar 2012	#155
Damn right,	RoccoR5955	Mar 2012	#166
You said it. Kucinich to me has always been a sort of, not sure how to put this, but	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#180
Good for him	a2liberal	Mar 2012	#175
He's too honest to play their games, and it's astounding how angry it makes people to see	sabrina 1	Mar 2012	#181

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