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Old Troop

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47. You don't give them up, but many can be circumscribed to ensure

Thu Mar 22, 2012, 06:30 PM

Mar 2012

good order and discipline. Article 88 of the Uniform Code of Military Justice specifically prohibits officers from disparaging members of the executive branch, governors and other named officials
http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/10/888. This allows criminal prosecution for such actions. For enlisted members, other regulations and laws apply. The main point of such regulations is not to protect the sensibilities of the offended officials, but to preclude the ability of the officer corps to engage in activities that may allow a coup to take place.

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U.S. Marine faces boot for anti-Obama Facebook posts [View all] Julian Englis Mar 2012 OP

The military is 100% government including their health care SHRED Mar 2012 #1

Cognitive dissonance. n/t Julian Englis Mar 2012 #2

He apparently tinks he is a teapot. Teapots don't follow orders. lonestarnot Mar 2012 #11

Maybe he's just waiting for someone who'll tip him over and pour him out? hatrack Mar 2012 #32

If you can't serve at the pleasure of the President FarPoint Mar 2012 #20

I live in a Navy town, and holy damn would you be shocked... Blue_Tires Mar 2012 #29

It's not for his FB post, it's for his insubordination and encouragement of mutiny. nanabugg Mar 2012 #58

To the best of my knowledge, obeying orders is not discretionary. no_hypocrisy Mar 2012 #3

To the best of my knowledge, obeying orders is not discretionary. AlbertCat Mar 2012 #9

Semantics zipplewrath Mar 2012 #10

From the link. ' Powered by Military VA Loan.' Meaning what? freshwest Mar 2012 #22

Yes, but let's not forget why he thinks his orders are unlawful nxylas Mar 2012 #26

His claim is that he is not following illegal orders. zbdent Mar 2012 #27

Countdown to when this fool is defended by Fox News Joe Bacon Mar 2012 #4

Let this tea bagger marine find out SamG Mar 2012 #5

Bingo FarPoint Mar 2012 #21

I thought that when you joined up you willing gave up alot of your rights including free speech? cstanleytech Mar 2012 #6

Not at all. PavePusher Mar 2012 #33

No, if you dont have the full rights you had before then your giving some of your rights up. cstanleytech Mar 2012 #44

You don't give them up, but many can be circumscribed to ensure Old Troop Mar 2012 #47

If he is just an E-5 sergeant after nine years... BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #7

But he's not particularly dragging his feet either. PavePusher Mar 2012 #34

Really. BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #56

Congrats to you. PavePusher Mar 2012 #57

Probably different in the Marines JonLP24 Mar 2012 #60

When I was Enlisted BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #62

Wow BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #63

You were paid the same as other E-5's if you were an E-5. Though you got paid more the longer you JonLP24 Mar 2012 #64

In case you wouldn't see a third edit JonLP24 Mar 2012 #65

Good point. In the Army, the chain of command Old Troop Mar 2012 #48

People Talk Politics in the Military BeGoodDoGood Mar 2012 #8

Been in nine years and didn't figure out there is no such thing as free speech rights in the service sarge43 Mar 2012 #12

No shit. Major Hogwash Mar 2012 #30

There certainly is free speech in the military... PavePusher Mar 2012 #35

Right. If my superiors think I said something out of line, I'm going to win that urine exchange? sarge43 Mar 2012 #36

This is why digital recorders are a good thing. PavePusher Mar 2012 #38

Yup. No doubt saved a few hindquarters. sarge43 Mar 2012 #39

Oh yeah. I use it very judiciously. PavePusher Mar 2012 #45

Sounds like you have the drill squared away. sarge43 Mar 2012 #46

Modern technology has many approriate uses. PavePusher Mar 2012 #52

And Sgt Stein chose poorly. n/t sarge43 Mar 2012 #53

How can they do that when they've been airing Rush Limbaugh on Armed Forces Radio for so long? Overseas Mar 2012 #13

+1,000 freshwest Mar 2012 #23

Good. n/t sinkingfeeling Mar 2012 #14

This is what happens when American Forces Radio broadcasts Limbaugh. n/t Ian David Mar 2012 #15

Good, I hope he gets a dishonorable discharge. apnu Mar 2012 #16

Not likely atreides1 Mar 2012 #19

That's my call unless he already has a tidy disciplinary file built up. sarge43 Mar 2012 #40

I'd love to see his file although I bet he gets an honorable Old Troop Mar 2012 #49

RE3 is waiverable, RE4 is not Sirveri Mar 2012 #55

Thanks for the correction. It's been 25 years since I was Old Troop Mar 2012 #66

You pretty much have to commit rape, murder, or desertion to get a dishonarable these days JonLP24 Mar 2012 #61

He could request a court martial, but even that I doubt would do it. Sirveri Mar 2012 #54

I don't understand. obxhead Mar 2012 #17

Agree with all but the last paragraph. Might get shot. freshwest Mar 2012 #24

Once out of the military, look for this guy to be a spotlighted Tea Potty candidate! n/t Fla Dem Mar 2012 #18

100% chance of that! freshwest Mar 2012 #25

Nah, he's just another useful idiot. He'll be forgotten by the next news cycle. sarge43 Mar 2012 #41

He has the right to be punished in the same manner as any military person who zbdent Mar 2012 #28

I smell the Oath Keepers Lasher Mar 2012 #31

He should have read the Military Code. Rule- Respect for your Commander in Chief appleannie1 Mar 2012 #37

People Got Arrested During Bush otohara Mar 2012 #42

As long as it was not hateful, racist, or talked about assassination Dragonbreathp9d Mar 2012 #43

Wrong atreides1 Mar 2012 #59

I know what the rules are- doesn't mean I still don't support him Dragonbreathp9d Mar 2012 #67

I learned in Boot Camp 55 years ago that Another Bill C. Mar 2012 #50

While this is very serious, The Onion's take on this is very hilarious Julian Englis Mar 2012 #51