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Catherina

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46. Lol! Israel refuses to support the US/EU position so this fakery is the best they can do?
Thu Apr 17, 2014, 02:10 PM
Apr 2014

There's been almost total silence from US politicians and the US Media over Israel's decision to abstain from voting at the UN in the vote to condemn Russia's annexation of the Crimea. Even before the UN sessions, Israel was refusing to get on board and, despite immense pressure, only issued a statement that they hoped things would be resolved peacefully.

Israel was very clear. They ""do not understand this point of view, which calls for Israel to be dragged into this quagmire". and wouldn't even attend the two UN meetings to condemn Russia. They're not going to sacrifice good relations they've had with Russia for people who are supporting Svoboda, who the World Jewish Congress wanted banned because they are neo-Nazis, but who, thanks to US & EU help, now have the Vice Prime Minister of Ukraine. When was the last time we saw ultranationalists neonazis with so many major positions in a European government? Israel remembers all too well. This little propaganda ploy, a flyer distributed by 3 unidentified men, is too ludicrously transparent for words. All it's missing are pictures little babies in incubators in the header and footer.


U.S. officials angry: Israel doesn’t back stance on Russia

13.04.14

White House and State Department officials in Washington have built up a great deal of anger over Jerusalem's "neutrality" regarding Russia's invasion of the Crimean Peninsula. Senior figures in the Obama administration have expressed great disappointment with the lack of support from Israel for the American position on the Ukraine crisis and with the fact that the Israeli government puts its relations...

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.585333


This despite all the pressure the US has been putting on Israel.

Under U.S. pressure, Israel issues first statement on Ukraine crisis
Terse statement, which precedes Lieberman-Kerry meeting in Rome, is careful not to insult Russia or President Vladimir Putin.
05.03.14

After pressure from the United States government, the Israeli government issued its first official statement on the crisis in Ukraine Wednesday night. In its laconic statement, Israel did not comment on the Russian invasion into Crimea but only underscored that it hopes the crisis will be solved peacefully.

http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.578197#



Less than two year ago the Israeli government was complaining to Kiev about the rise of Svoboda and other neonazi elements. No sense expecting Israel to be too pleased about having bona fide "88" lapel pin wearers occupying important posts in a European government. For our government to now whine about Israel not supporting us in the UN is beyond pitiful.

Israel skipped out on both UN meetings to condemn Russia.

US angry with Israel's 'neutrality' over Ukrainian crisis
13 April 2014

US officials expressed anger over Israel's policy of "non-interference" with the Russian annexation of the Crimea; Israel's Haaretz newspaper reported.

A US official told the paper that the White House was disappointed with Israel's absence from the UN General Assembly meeting two weeks ago to vote on condemning Russia's military invasion of the Crimea and call to maintain Ukraine's territorial integrity.

"We have been consulting closely on Ukraine not only with our partners and allies around the world. Obviously we are looking to the entire international community to condemn Russia's actions and to support Ukraine, so we were surprised to see that Israel did not join the large majority of countries that voted to support Ukraine's territorial integrity at the United Nations. Israel's justification that it did not attend the meeting due to the Foreign Ministry strike is unacceptable" said the senior US official.

The US official said that Washington is particularly angry with Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Foreign Minister Avigdor Lieberman's failure to publically support the US position on the crisis.

According to Haaretz the US is especially disappointed with FM Lieberman who equated Israel's relations with the United States to its relations with Russia. Lieberman is reported to have told Channel 9 that Israel has "good and trusting relations with the Americans and the Russians, and our experience has been very positive with both sides". The official said "I do not understand this point of view, which calls for Israel to be dragged into this quagmire".

...

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/news/americas/10861-us-angry-with-israels-neutrality-over-ukrainian-crisis


Israel is very wise not to get involved and jeopardize its good relations with Russia. The rest who are salivating for war, well "Beat those war drums!" Israel won't be joining in. It knows exactly what this shit is.

Jews ordered to register in east Ukraine [View all] Freddie Stubbs Apr 2014 OP
oh boy doesnt this sound familiar leftyohiolib Apr 2014 #1
Russia, going backward to the 4th century as fast as they can. anyone who trades roguevalley Apr 2014 #36
But, but, we've been told the Ukrainian govt is "fascist neo nazi". The Russians are for freedom!! 7962 Apr 2014 #84
''Always follow the money.'' ~Deep Throat DeSwiss Apr 2014 #44
The word "pogrom" comes to mind. Brigid Apr 2014 #99
OMG this is terrifying. Really terrifying. Happyhippychick Apr 2014 #2
Registration-- why is that bad ? warrant46 Apr 2014 #106
Read a little bit about WWII, then you'll know Happyhippychick Apr 2014 #107
Actually I took your advice warrant46 Apr 2014 #108
I wouldn't know, I have no patience for the NRA's "logic" Happyhippychick Apr 2014 #109
NRA logic doesn't exist is more appropos wordpix Apr 2014 #111
THIS is gonna end well derby378 Apr 2014 #3
Yep CFLDem Apr 2014 #30
hope I'm dead by then demigoddess Apr 2014 #64
Sounds like Russian propoganda, trying to equate Ukraine with Nazis davepc Apr 2014 #4
It's a pro-Russian group which did this Freddie Stubbs Apr 2014 #5
That makes sense davepc Apr 2014 #10
You've got that backwards. jeff47 Apr 2014 #33
I'd bet the opposite. MattSh Apr 2014 #15
+ 1 Botany Apr 2014 #9
Wait didn't Richard Engel okwmember Apr 2014 #6
I believe you are correct, which only demonstrates putin is talking out of two sides of his mouth lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #11
He's always demonstrated that Scairp Apr 2014 #52
true. one with shirt on, and one with shirt off... lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #82
Well, whatever Scairp Apr 2014 #90
LOL Good one. I don't think the person you responded to got it, but I did. nt okaawhatever Apr 2014 #91
Yes, I know, but its ok, we are all on the same page, thanks lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #97
it soon may be time to take s stand Supersedeas Apr 2014 #110
Mila Kunis always said there was a lot of anti-Semitism in her old country bluestateguy Apr 2014 #7
I'm sure my great-grandfather would agree villager Apr 2014 #12
So it is pretty obvious that Russia does not care if everyone knows about its anti-Semetic policies. lostincalifornia Apr 2014 #8
Holy smokes... Helen Borg Apr 2014 #13
Sounds like the backward time machine has been turned on. I hope the world is not going through this RKP5637 Apr 2014 #14
Terrifying. Wasn't to long ago when millions were exterminated in Ukraine. Sunlei Apr 2014 #16
And another Israeli source says the pro-Russian forces are denying it starroute Apr 2014 #17
Hell, I hate to say it, but that kind of thing reminds me of the CIA n/t arcane1 Apr 2014 #19
Agreed. No propagandist could hope for a more inspired reaction than the one on this thread. GoneFishin Apr 2014 #21
Thanks.. I thought I was the only one who was skeptical n/t progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #57
No, you are not the only one The Blue Flower Apr 2014 #62
Three unidentified men in balaclava masks carrying a flag of the Russian Federation? cabrona Apr 2014 #34
sounds a bit like those assbites with the card tables outside the Post Office. progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #56
Will Putin order pink triangles next? blm Apr 2014 #18
If true, makes Bibi look bad. He has been "making nice" with Putin. yellowcanine Apr 2014 #20
Or Putin, or both. bemildred Apr 2014 #27
Babies in incubators anyone? arikara Apr 2014 #22
Putin... penultimate Apr 2014 #28
the russians didn't need the nazi's to discriminate against Jews. Javaman Apr 2014 #23
Could be disinfo. cabrona Apr 2014 #24
I Just Heard John Kerry On NPR Saying That Jews Were Being Told To Register... WillyT Apr 2014 #26
The use of the passive voice is confusing. cabrona Apr 2014 #31
This is so laughable. I cringe at how desperate the State Department is Catherina Apr 2014 #66
Very good post. nt cabrona Apr 2014 #75
Somebody at the (gag) New Republic even is claiming it's a hoax m-lekktor Apr 2014 #78
Thanks. NCSJ says "It’s a fake flyer". Dumbest, most evil propaganda ever. Catherina Apr 2014 #87
+1000 Its not credible at all. cprise Apr 2014 #79
And pay us $50 (dollars!) cash. Reporters went to the reg room. It was empty Catherina Apr 2014 #88
Thank you, Catherina - great post. Raksha Apr 2014 #89
Thanks Raksha. I just updated Koko's thread with some information that might interest you Catherina Apr 2014 #94
My bet is on the Ukranian nationalists. nt snappyturtle Apr 2014 #38
Oh, the Ukrainian nationalists have definitely been in control in Donestk. amandabeech Apr 2014 #86
It's awful - but we don't know what it is MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #25
Indeed, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #29
best post on this thread. n/t warrprayer Apr 2014 #32
but are YOU going to ignore this? elleng Apr 2014 #43
Kerry voted to invade Iraq because of WMDs. JackRiddler Apr 2014 #45
I'm not planning on taking direct action on it MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #47
Similarly situated, elleng Apr 2014 #50
I'm taking it *very* seriously MannyGoldstein Apr 2014 #77
am I reading something wrong? progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #53
Whatever it was/is, elleng Apr 2014 #55
Kerry is being made the fool ... 1000words Apr 2014 #85
How many have heard of Babi Yar? tclambert Apr 2014 #35
Anatevka, Anatevka. Underfed, overworked Anatevka. onehandle Apr 2014 #37
Reading that made my blood run cold Marrah_G Apr 2014 #39
That was the intent. Make people's blood run cold enough Catherina Apr 2014 #68
Just the fact that people think like that is scary Marrah_G Apr 2014 #92
scary, soul chilling, terrifying really Catherina Apr 2014 #93
May well be a hoax Marrah_G Apr 2014 #98
Scary, very very scary!! lark Apr 2014 #40
I thought... DirtyDawg Apr 2014 #41
Kerry condemns this. elleng Apr 2014 #42
I know but ya'know some on the DU honestly Iliyah Apr 2014 #48
and in some respects we MAY be, elleng Apr 2014 #54
The fact that Kerry fell for a hoax is what is scary. former9thward Apr 2014 #102
Maybe falling for this hoax was easy becasue it goes with the agenda US has at the moment. LisaL Apr 2014 #104
It's not intolerable. It's not grotesque. Because it's a hoax. LisaL Apr 2014 #103
It IS intolerable, and it IS grotesque, elleng Apr 2014 #105
Lol! Israel refuses to support the US/EU position so this fakery is the best they can do? Catherina Apr 2014 #46
Kyiv Post are quoting same link as the OP : not internal Ukraine News. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #63
Sick scam indeed but as effective as babies in incubators Catherina Apr 2014 #70
"Quagmire" is right. nt cabrona Apr 2014 #74
yes it's all an anti-Putin conspiracy. Putin is just an innocent, well meaning leader. Right? uhnope Apr 2014 #76
Putin responded to a US-backed fascist coup. richard3 Apr 2014 #113
What else does Putin want us to think? uhnope Apr 2014 #114
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #115
This story is being pushed by the RW media here... progressivebydesign Apr 2014 #49
CIA psyops and disinformation cosmicone Apr 2014 #51
This is scary stuff lillypaddle Apr 2014 #58
Russia's activities in the Ukraine awoke_in_2003 Apr 2014 #59
Uh oh..... louis-t Apr 2014 #60
Ominous, no matter where it comes from. Using terrors from the past to push some agenda here. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #61
Welcome to 1930. And now we've got new tracking technology to make sure you don't escape this time! blkmusclmachine Apr 2014 #65
With the alleged presence of US mercenaries nyabingi Apr 2014 #67
Admits distributing but denies content... TeeYiYi Apr 2014 #69
ADL: "We are skeptical about the flier’s authenticity... condemn attempts to politicize antisemitism Catherina Apr 2014 #71
TNR: "Relax, Ukraine is Not Ordering Its Jews to Register" Catherina Apr 2014 #72
awful headline for this story Enrique Apr 2014 #73
This is just evil. David Zephyr Apr 2014 #80
This is terrorism whoever did it. applegrove Apr 2014 #81
So much speculation: sounds sketchy at best. YOHABLO Apr 2014 #83
Its a scam in bad taste - background information at this link : dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #95
Haaretz - Flier calling on Donetsk Jews to register now widely seen as fake jakeXT Apr 2014 #96
My stomach did a roll over Scruffy Rumbler Apr 2014 #100
Ukraine's Chief Rabbi: "Antisemitic flyer 'by Donetsk People's Republic' in Ukraine a hoax" Catherina Apr 2014 #101
Hmmm, this reminds me of something, what is it? Beacool Apr 2014 #112
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