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23. I think the people he harmed have a greater interest in seeing justice...

Thu Mar 15, 2012, 03:01 PM

Mar 2012

...than he has in avoiding it. The military apparently thought him competent enough to kill on command, so it's somewhat disingenuous to start worrying about the shooter's mental health now, don't you think? And awfully convenient as a means of shoving all those murders under the rug.

Note too that his rampage apparently went on for hours within walking distance and easy hearing range of U.S. forces, who did nothing to intervene. Presumably, if he was undergoing a "psychotic break" his actions were nonetheless not exceptional to those who sat and listened to him shooting civilians for several hours.

If the comment "He was diagnosed with a traumatic brain injury and sent back to fight." is meant to elicit sympathy for him, it doesn't. What about the people he harmed? What of their rights to justice? You don't like their customs, but they are the aggrieved party here, not the U.S. military.

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Afghanistan massacre suspect flown to Kuwait [View all] muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 OP

I do NOT want this soldier leftynyc Mar 2012 #1

His victims were civilian Afghanistanis, witnesses are too; he did it in that country muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #2

Can he get a fair trial in Afghan civilian court? Bradical79 Mar 2012 #5

By Treaty with the present Afghanstan Government, he can NOT be tried by Afghanistan happyslug Mar 2012 #7

This analysis says the status is equivalent to embassy personnel muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #12

No fucking way leftynyc Mar 2012 #9

anyone who thinks the military will give him a fair trial is dreaming, too.... mike_c Mar 2012 #18

Are you absolutely sure leftynyc Mar 2012 #21

I think the people he harmed have a greater interest in seeing justice... mike_c Mar 2012 #23

Wrong - his actions leftynyc Mar 2012 #28

You're the one wanting special treatment for him *because* he's in the military muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #30

Of course not leftynyc Mar 2012 #32

You compared them in #28 muriel_volestrangler Mar 2012 #33

Not inconsistent in WHO should leftynyc Mar 2012 #35

but he was not acting in the context of his military mission.... mike_c Mar 2012 #39

Sorry, I couldn 't read past leftynyc Mar 2012 #40

so what, just another day on the job? mike_c Mar 2012 #41

?, USA, USA, USA!!! webDude Mar 2012 #4

Tried in Afghanistan could mean tried by the US Military in Afganistan karynnj Mar 2012 #8

First we need to find out leftynyc Mar 2012 #10

I don't think I am anti-military and everything I wrote suggests US juristiction karynnj Mar 2012 #13

I wasn't speaking of you specifically leftynyc Mar 2012 #14

I have not heard a single person in our governmant ever say that Karzai's government should try him karynnj Mar 2012 #26

Is Karzai not the head of the leftynyc Mar 2012 #29

Some in our government want the Afghanis to try him? I haven't read that karynnj Mar 2012 #34

Nobody in our government leftynyc Mar 2012 #36

So, could Afghanistan blow him away with a drone missile strike? gratuitous Mar 2012 #3

That works for me. Nihil Mar 2012 #6

Do you think that's a good idea? leftynyc Mar 2012 #11

No, I don't think it's a particularly good idea gratuitous Mar 2012 #15

I understand your position and leftynyc Mar 2012 #16

Our government doesn't exactly have clean hands, either gratuitous Mar 2012 #17

I don't think we have to be perfect leftynyc Mar 2012 #19

Yep. I've seen that 'thinking' time and time again. Solly Mack Mar 2012 #20

I have the following moral distinction. Igel Mar 2012 #37

No sylvi Mar 2012 #24

Ah, I see gratuitous Mar 2012 #25

You asked what the difference is and would it be justified sylvi Mar 2012 #27

Air-drop his murdering ass naked out of a C130 NickB79 Mar 2012 #22

I think he deserves actual justice, starting with a psychiatric examination slackmaster Mar 2012 #31

How craven a political/military policy rusty fender Mar 2012 #38