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13 Shot Outside Arizona Nightclub [View all] Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 OP
Gang fight. slackmaster Mar 2012 #1
Probably... ellisonz Mar 2012 #28
Sometimes they're not in gangs. vaberella Mar 2012 #37
Biggie and Tupac made career choices that put them into dangerous situations slackmaster Mar 2012 #43
Open carry fanatics. onehandle Mar 2012 #39
Nice. You make it about race rather then AZ's gun policies me b zola Mar 2012 #71
This incident had nothing to do with lawful use of firearms or race slackmaster Mar 2012 #72
You have to be really ignorant of reality to make a post like that. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #110
Projection and hateful screeds are fun! me b zola Mar 2012 #115
What you did was essentially excuse a possible cause of the incident. Pacafishmate Mar 2012 #117
No really, shove off me b zola Mar 2012 #118
I lived in Tempe for years. Sadly, shootings are not uncommon there. Alexander Mar 2012 #2
My aunt lives there. Parts of it are OK, lots of college students and retired people. But... slackmaster Mar 2012 #3
Drove into Guadalupe once while killing time before going to the airport to catch a flight FarCenter Mar 2012 #13
why would anyone support allowing guns in a bar - it is just insane DrDan Mar 2012 #4
I'll make two little wagers here, DrDan. We know that AZ law doesn't allow people who are drinking slackmaster Mar 2012 #6
One of the reasons I left AZ Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2012 #5
"everyone"? Really? n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #10
Why is it thateverytime someone gets slaughtered DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #64
My "filth" and my "death"? Cite/explain, please. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #98
Yeah, still waiting...... n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #99
Keep waiting. I already said what I intended to say. DisgustipatedinCA Mar 2012 #108
Actually some of us are tired of lies, deception, and exaggeration. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #100
In my little rural town, I hear automatic gun fire at least a few times a month. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #11
That was my first thought...meth BlueToTheBone Mar 2012 #19
More news reports here of "single bottle" mixing dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #35
OMG! BlueToTheBone Mar 2012 #45
I agree that giving all drugs, regardless of their actual danger, the same treatment by Lionessa Mar 2012 #74
I've read two Aerows Mar 2012 #114
"automatic gun fire"? Really? PavePusher Mar 2012 #25
ooops..maybe I meant semi-automatic? dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #34
Yes,semi-auto fire sounds more likely, given that you can distinguish individual rounds being fired. PavePusher Mar 2012 #49
The semi-automatic shots almost always come from a " certain area" in town dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #60
There's no mistaking full-auto fire TexasBill Mar 2012 #85
I live in Arizona and I don't carry. So much for "everyone" n/t Tansy_Gold Mar 2012 #14
Seemed like everyone to me Viva_La_Revolution Mar 2012 #27
I live in NM. I see people openly carrying sometimes. TheCruces Mar 2012 #65
Open carry is legal n New Mexico TexasBill Mar 2012 #84
Yeah, I know TheCruces Mar 2012 #87
I really resent the stereotypes of the people that live in Arizona. jillan Mar 2012 #32
+1 from another Chicago native. n/t Tansy_Gold Mar 2012 #38
Didn't you get the memo? PavePusher Mar 2012 #50
Yay concealed carry laws! Fearless Mar 2012 #7
Please explain what law would have stopped a criminal from commiting this criminal action. n/t PavePusher Mar 2012 #9
That was my point. Fearless Mar 2012 #17
+1000 ellisonz Mar 2012 #21
I think we are talking at cross-purposes. PavePusher Mar 2012 #23
A brief lesson about carrying a gun TexasBill Mar 2012 #40
we don't need your lessons... we see them in the news everyday fascisthunter Mar 2012 #48
Again a Prohibitionist conflates the criminal and the lawful. PavePusher Mar 2012 #51
You make a lot of assumptions TexasBill Mar 2012 #78
I think concealed carrying laws exclude places that sell liquor or post signs... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #68
You're exactly right TexasBill Mar 2012 #77
No particular wave I'm aware of.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #88
You know what I mean. You can stand a long way away and gun down several people. Easier ... Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #91
"It's easier than stabbing, where you have to be up close and personal..." PavePusher Mar 2012 #94
I'm not denying guns to anyone. What ARE you talking about? I have a gun. Honeycombe8 Mar 2012 #96
My apology, I seem to have extrapolated too far on insufficient data. PavePusher Mar 2012 #97
Except that CCW carriers wouldn't be carrying in a bar because it's not legal to drink armed. Lionessa Mar 2012 #75
Wrong Remmah2 Mar 2012 #101
You're Attributing Overwhelmingly Positive Attributes To An Inanimate Object. Paladin Mar 2012 #102
I rest my case. Remmah2 Mar 2012 #103
Get Back To Me With Something Coherent, OK? (n/t) Paladin Mar 2012 #104
Are you incoherent? Remmah2 Mar 2012 #105
Limit the number of guns manufactured; greiner3 Mar 2012 #29
That would have the added benefit of ensuring that poor people couldn't afford them slackmaster Mar 2012 #30
Pandora's box can't be closed again TexasBill Mar 2012 #44
The Pandora Box problem LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #53
You start from a flawed premise. PavePusher Mar 2012 #54
No one is suggesting that? LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #79
I love statistics TexasBill Mar 2012 #83
I respect your tone and attempt to discuss reasonably LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #86
Let's try again... TexasBill Mar 2012 #92
One more time LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #95
You have not shown any evidence that "everyone should be armed"... PavePusher Mar 2012 #89
Arguing from a flawed assumption TexasBill Mar 2012 #81
Really? RockWarrior Mar 2012 #109
Sorry for trusting Reuters LiberalLovinLug Mar 2012 #116
Better restrict garage-workbench sized CNC machines too. PavePusher Mar 2012 #52
dood the AZ leg passed a law a couple years back to Robeysays Mar 2012 #42
Arizona has been an "Open Carry" state for about 100 years TexasBill Mar 2012 #47
Wonder how many legal chl carriers were there. Hangingon Mar 2012 #12
I suspect none, as the venue probably prohibits firearms slackmaster Mar 2012 #20
Actually, in order to carry into a bar that permits it.... PavePusher Mar 2012 #56
Should have remembered about Arizona's laws Hangingon Mar 2012 #62
Damn, and my wife is afraid to go to Nogalas because of the violence. OffWithTheirHeads Mar 2012 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author MikeOlsen Mar 2012 #15
Ah yes, I remember the nickname "The Arizona Republican". Alexander Mar 2012 #16
At least they bothered to give a description of the suspects slackmaster Mar 2012 #22
Arizona - land of gunnuttery. All those guns are making things safer there. jpak Mar 2012 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author MikeOlsen Mar 2012 #26
I knew it jpak Mar 2012 #33
That's a pathtic & very bigoted comment. Do much Johnson20 Mar 2012 #58
I think he was being sarcastic in response to jpak's known bigotry. PavePusher Mar 2012 #90
""(Arizona) ... y'all gotta be cool man" - Nipsey Hussle ellisonz Mar 2012 #24
I kind of feel sorry for the guy because he is old, but his lyrics and videos encourage thuggery slackmaster Mar 2012 #31
Do you think most rap music is "stochastic terrorism" or just this artist? n/t ellisonz Mar 2012 #55
Only rap music that results in horrific crime slackmaster Mar 2012 #61
There were no horrific crimes before rap music JonLP24 Mar 2012 #70
Nipsey Hussle? Skittles Mar 2012 #36
The rappers name sent me back a few years too ! clever twist lunasun Mar 2012 #66
Yet another overly exuberant celebration of American liberties. Crunchy Frog Mar 2012 #41
Yeah, everyone knows shooting up a nightclub is covered under the Constitution..... PavePusher Mar 2012 #57
Everyone Should have Been Armed fascisthunter Mar 2012 #46
We need much stricter laws against murder. nt Snake Alchemist Mar 2012 #93
Nightclubs are getting to be as dangerous as churches for shootouts nowadays. nt valerief Mar 2012 #59
What? I thought this didn't happen in Joe Arpaio's county! I thought his posse muntrv Mar 2012 #63
They weren't Mexican and his posse is too busy with Obama's berf certifecat dontchaknow lunasun Mar 2012 #67
Holy shit---I'm in that area twice a week JonLP24 Mar 2012 #69
It's great news that they caught one of the assholes slackmaster Mar 2012 #73
I'm all for $5,000 bullets... MrScorpio Mar 2012 #76
Hehe... ellisonz Mar 2012 #80
We need bullet control! nt MrScorpio Mar 2012 #82
I think it won't be long until everyone in AZ is required to pack at all times Doctor_J Mar 2012 #106
Here's a video just for you, Doctor_J slackmaster Mar 2012 #107
Thanks, slack. Doctor_J Mar 2012 #112
Let me know when someone suggests anything remotely resembling requiring everyone... slackmaster Mar 2012 #113
Fortunately everybody there was armed so they could stop the killing spree. Bruce Wayne Mar 2012 #111
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