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Response to Laelth (Reply #29)

Wed Dec 4, 2013, 04:58 PM

36. Another hear, hear

I'd rather see the government run the mines, oil wells, banks and provide health care than see a continuation of the legalized white collar crime that passes for capitalism nowadays.

Freedom means the right to criticize the government in a public forum and not be charged with a crime; or, if one is charged with a crime, to be given due process as a right without being called a terrorist (or even if one is called a terrorist). It has nothing to do any supposed right a marketeer has to be free of regulation so he can rob his customers.

There is such a thing as society and it grows out of human nature. Ayn Rand's assertion that man is a selfish and aggressive lone hunter is a half truth at best and calumny against the entire human race at worst. Primitive humans hunt in packs because it is our nature to do so. We, collectively, have the right to organize the market to assure that it will work for everybody and to give businessmen and consumers alike the confidence that no one is out to just give them the business. I, for one, no longer have that confidence.

While I just said that socialism is an acceptable remedy for the ills of unregulated capitalism, I would be happy to settle for capitalism like what we had before 1980, when common sense regulations kept the marketeers from cheating the public, depleting resources faster than they can be replaced or fouling the environment, as well as a robust labor movement that assured manufacturers of a large middle class to consume their products. Just who do the Koch brothers think is going to buy Dixie Cups after their political stooges have cut the last patch of mesh from the safety net and reduced the minimum wage to zero and demonstrate that they are very happy to pay it? Now, there's a vision of an economic system that contains within the seeds of its own destruction.

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