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Response to pintobean (Original post)

Thu Oct 10, 2013, 09:12 PM

38. I'm sorry, but this study isn't exactly "innovative". It smells really off, actually.

The claim that cities such as Phoenix, Dallas, Los Angeles, etc. would be hotter, on average, than even the hottest temperatures ever recorded in the past, with just a 3*C temperature rise, was perhaps the biggest giveaway that there was something wrong.

Particularly in the case of Los Angeles & San Diego, for example : the hottest temperature ever recorded in L.A. is about 113*F. But the average high in August is only about 85*F. A 3*C temperature rise would not have as much effect on So.Cal. as it would in the High Plains or the Arctic, as well as the fact that winters and nights are likely to really start warming notably first according to some recent studies, so for these purposes, we'll say that L.A.'s new August high ends up being at around 88.5*F. Certainly, it wouldn't be good news, but nowhere near what Mora has claimed.

Furthermore, San Diego's average high is about 75*F in August, with the warmest ever temperature having been 110*F. Now, let's assume that San Diego may possibly be more affected than L.A. for whatever reason, with it's average high in August now 79*F, Again, not exactly good news, but nowhere near what Mora claims.

And even Dallas wouldn't be shifting that far: even if we assume a rough summer rise of 3.5*F, that does take Dallas to 98*F or thereabouts, but again, nowhere near the "former records now averages" schtick that he's insisting is somehow possible with just 3*C temp rises(for those in doubt, here's a quote from the article: "By 2043, 147 cities more than half of those studied will have shifted to a hotter temperature regime that is beyond historical records.").

If Mora is truly trying to help, instead of just attention seeking as people such as Guy McPherson are apt to do, then he needs to really rethink this. Otherwise, he should step back to the sidelines, and let the actual research speak for itself.













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