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In the discussion thread: ‘We Are Stronger’: Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month [View all]

Sun Feb 26, 2012, 10:07 PM

BiggJawn (23,051 posts)

154. or in the 2 years leading up to the election...

or the 2 years after the election...

So is this the new version of 2004's "SHHHHHH! Don't upset the flighty Swing Voters!"

You're right, we should just get back in the closet or quietly crawl back under the bus...

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155 replies	Author	Time	Post
‘We Are Stronger’: Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month [View all]	Great Caesars Ghost	Feb 2012	OP
I'm an atheist going on record to say I wish organized atheists wouldn't pull acts like this in	blm	Feb 2012	#1
Yep. nt	onehandle	Feb 2012	#2
Why not?	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#4
Indeed. Why not, blm?	Auggie	Feb 2012	#9
woot!	SammyWinstonJack	Feb 2012	#107
You forget...	SkyDaddy7	Feb 2012	#148
When would those be? Fundraising never stops in DC any more.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#7
Mimicking them doesn't jive in my book.	blm	Feb 2012	#14
I rather agree, blm. Two dumbs don't make a right. They are already paranoid. Its like poking a bomb	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#28
I don't understand. Being atheist is dumb? or a rally in the Mall is dumb?	secondwind	Feb 2012	#55
no. what I am saying probably poorly is that if you poke at a bomb and it blows up in your face	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#98
Yes, openly stating you exist is exactly the same as	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#37
Every year is an election year.	Hissyspit	Feb 2012	#8
Today. In our new, 24/7 news/hype/reponse cycle ... rapid response team	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#18
.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#74
Which other groups should be silent during election years?	NAO	Feb 2012	#11
I agree completely nt	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#20
+1000	Canuckistanian	Feb 2012	#29
Taking the message to the streets	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#32
This message was self-deleted by its author	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#34
+1	libmom74	Feb 2012	#54
Well said. I'd like to add, I dont think it is right to ask any group	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#77
What act?	ChadwickHenryWard	Feb 2012	#12
Brilliant for once.	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#19
This Great, I'm tired of being Ignored by my Leaders	bahrbearian	Feb 2012	#22
OK! Say I'm your leader. I'm here for you. What do you want?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#25
The right to decide for myself when and on what terms I become a parent.	wickerwoman	Feb 2012	#42
+ a gazillion	chervilant	Feb 2012	#81
Come over to Europe ...	Nihil	Feb 2012	#118
Would do, but I'm already in New Zealand.	wickerwoman	Feb 2012	#140
Ah, also a good choice!	Nihil	Feb 2012	#152
I agree, i don't get it at all and have no interest in it, it would be different	JI7	Feb 2012	#41
Why not? nt	Deep13	Feb 2012	#48
As a self described atheist........	HowHeThinks	Feb 2012	#58
hmm...	chervilant	Feb 2012	#84
Atheism vs. separation of church and state	primavera	Feb 2012	#102
IMHO	chervilant	Feb 2012	#143
I am disappointed in this post. Not because of your opinion but because you	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#78
I keep it to my self. I get why people do religion and don't care what they believe till it's shoved	blm	Feb 2012	#91
I understand. But speaking up for oneself is important.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#95
This is not arganized atheism, its organized REASON.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#131
I agree. Gives people who say Atheism is a religion something to point at.	bamacrat	Feb 2012	#142
They don't need an excuse or a reason to do that	DavidDvorkin	Feb 2012	#144
or in the 2 years leading up to the election...	BiggJawn	Feb 2012	#154
WHY NOT?	Taverner	Feb 2012	#155
Really, legislative equality for what?	Obamacare	Feb 2012	#3
Recognition as an organized religion?	onehandle	Feb 2012	#5
Is all "success" religion?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#23
From reasonrally.org	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#6
Sure! Probably 80% of Americans are already largely secular; whether they know it or not	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#26
How do you feel about the OP? nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#72
Hard to take you seriously when you just drop a turd and run. Tell me I am wrong	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#97
Did you know that in some states	JNelson6563	Feb 2012	#141
Funny how in this nation of "freedom of speech"	Fearless	Feb 2012	#10
Not the point. I don't think organized anti-religion is the cure for organized religion and it	blm	Feb 2012	#13
Good/God point. But? As an intermediary step? With some respect to tradition?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#15
Does organized religion need a cure? Sounds too much like a certain guy from WW2.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#30
Yes, the oppression Christians face in this country is absolutely overwhelming.	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#39
Freedom OF Religion, not for.	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#49
Whoever predicted 30 posts in the Godwin's Law pool, you've won	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#69
I think you misunderstood. He wasnt suggesting organized religion needed a cure.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#80
Looking at guys like Rick Santorum, I'm beginning to think it does	primavera	Feb 2012	#108
Hahahaha! Says the guy who advocates for a Theocracy.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#136
It isn't 'organized anti-religion'.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#33
Organized atheism is generally perceived as anti-religious, and that POV	humblebum	Feb 2012	#35
I don't care how it's perceived, when the flaw is with the people making the assessment.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#38
Yes, you exist. You have rights and you have value as a human being.	humblebum	Feb 2012	#43
The "several prominent atheists" you referred to range from atheists to anti-theists and not a damn	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#44
I'm sure they don't speak for all atheists, but they are responsible for the perceptions	humblebum	Feb 2012	#46
What?!?	chervilant	Feb 2012	#89
Like I said, good luck with that. nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#111
Classic...	chervilant	Feb 2012	#134
And with folks like you who perpetuate the bullshit, we need all the luck we can get.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#114
So by that logic, organized religion must be anti-athiest	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#53
You mean to say that organized religion is anti-non-belief? Boy, that's	humblebum	Feb 2012	#56
No, I wrote what I meant to say	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#61
Yes, you wrote just what I was thinking. But, of course, the poor,	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#65
Good. then we are agreed. Organized atheism is anti-religious. Nice talkin' to ya.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#106
If you think I agreed with you, your comprehension skills must be severely lacking	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#109
Agree or not, I specified ORGANIZED atheism, not	humblebum	Feb 2012	#110
They ridicule and condemn the adverse actions of organized religion. Big difference.	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#112
No. As a matter of fact, they do condemn and ridicule religion, and religious belief, as well. And	humblebum	Feb 2012	#113
So what would those "adverse actions" be?	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#122
Only in the way that ORGANIZED religion actively ridicule and condemn non-belief.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#117
This post was hidden by jury decision.	humblebum	Feb 2012	#119
BTW, organized atheism has a history of	humblebum	Feb 2012	#121
Really?	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#123
History usually indicates something past, but that can be used as an indicator	humblebum	Feb 2012	#124
Hogwash	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#125
+1000000	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#129
Major, it's not hogwash, it's bullshit.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#130
Right, the number killed in the name of religion is far greater.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#128
Yeah, much bigger than oppressing minorities and building a theocracy.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#127
No, I don't realize that. I don't distrust people without them giving me reason to.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#36
As long as shit like this keeps coming up	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#40
Surely, this rally pisses off the right people.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 2012	#45
In an election year, a very bad idea. I would expect Obama to distance himself	humblebum	Feb 2012	#57
That's the point.	HowHeThinks	Feb 2012	#59
Hell, yeah! 'And just when IS a "good time" to broach the subject?'	Joseph8th	Feb 2012	#60
"20% of the population" - doubtful. Reliable sources please.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#105
Lookie there, more evasion of the point.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#115
You might want to consider displaying something other than	humblebum	Feb 2012	#120
I find your attitude to be so dishearteningly power-slaving that it borders on dehumanisation	stockholmer	Feb 2012	#103
Oh, nice one. Crusades. Yeah, you really got us there. And don't tell us to "control" ourselves.	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#66
Atheism is not anti-religion.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#47
Unfortunately, that's rarely the case. And that is just one of the reasons I am anti-religion. Not	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#68
I think some have different definitions of "anti-religious". You say you are not	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#76
I agree.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#87
Then why do atheists let the anti-religious become their spokesmen.	Leontius	Feb 2012	#101
People like Hitchens crave the media ... the media crave people like Hitchens ....	SomeGuyInEagan	Feb 2012	#116
Well, we won't be "mimicking" them	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#62
Its not ANTI-RELIGION. FFS, man, get a grip.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#135
this is a political rally	RainDog	Feb 2012	#147
I love the name, Reason Rally.	eyewall	Feb 2012	#16
Heck, I'm in love with Reason. Is that wrong?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#17
Reason is never wrong,	eyewall	Feb 2012	#31
legislative equality?	madrchsod	Feb 2012	#21
Any that gives preference to religious views and people	dmallind	Feb 2012	#63
I don't believe it'll happen.	RUMMYisFROSTED	Feb 2012	#24
The mere fact that a group is discussing it, means it is happening far more than in the past	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#27
I'm opposed to atheism being pushed like a belief system	bhikkhu	Feb 2012	#50
It's called the Reason Rally.....for a reason.	dmallind	Feb 2012	#64
Lack of belief? I believe in plenty of things. Just not some made up man in the sky who hates fags.	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#70
I hear you.	randome	Feb 2012	#94
It's not about believing in not believing, it's about believing in not being oppressed.	Scuba	Feb 2012	#100
Me too. Let me know when you see that happening.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#137
Probably true - just the way the media puts it	bhikkhu	Feb 2012	#139
I'm not an atheist, but I support this. Eom	tavalon	Feb 2012	#51
Richard Dawkins, James Randi, Bad Religion, Dan Barker, Cristina Rad	Adenoid_Hynkel	Feb 2012	#52
I love Christina Rad's videos	stockholmer	Feb 2012	#104
Since many are ruled by groupthink, it's impt. to let others know	snot	Feb 2012	#67
It's about fucking time!	pscot	Feb 2012	#71
I'm so much of an atheist...	sofa king	Feb 2012	#73
God bless Atheists.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#79
That would sting more if you were real.	sofa king	Feb 2012	#82
Did not intend it to "sting" at all. It was intended to be a light-hearted	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#96
I'm sorry!	sofa king	Feb 2012	#145
Ok I get it. A little slow on this end. And I wish Pres Obama would kick	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#146
well, I thought you were both joking	RainDog	Feb 2012	#149
Call it the "Million Mind March"	Sabriel	Feb 2012	#75
Great Post for discussion on the Topic of Atheism	fascisthunter	Feb 2012	#83
They "encourage participants to claim their identity".	randome	Feb 2012	#85
Huh?	Skeeve	Feb 2012	#88
Huh?	randome	Feb 2012	#90
Damn, I wish I still lived in Southern Maryland!	kdmorris	Feb 2012	#86
Atheists and agnostics score higher in knowledge of world religions than "believers"	KansDem	Feb 2012	#92
I support the recognition of atheist	Gringostan	Feb 2012	#93
Um? American Atheists, a non-profit with tax breaks.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#126
Non-profit is not the same as 501(c)	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#133
Not a RELIGIOUS non-profit, an EDUCATIONAL non-prophet.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#138
I'll be there in spirit. Oh, wait.	Scuba	Feb 2012	#99
I kinda hope those that are trying to convince atheists not to organize	BootinUp	Feb 2012	#132
Wish I could be there	Onceuponalife	Feb 2012	#150
Let's pray for good weather.	Bucky	Feb 2012	#151
We're booked and going.	RussBLib	Feb 2012	#153

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