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beerandjesus

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65. It WAS a slippery slope....

Mon Sep 9, 2013, 10:04 AM

Sep 2013

.... but we're past that point now. We've slipped down the slope into the mud and shit.

The business about "ensuring people need assistance" is based on nothing but sanctimony. If someone needs food badly enough to ask a stranger for it, he probably isn't playing games... and even if he is, it's STILL worth the infinitesimal cost so that we can be the kind of society that helps the needy, rather than the kind of society that marginalizes and stigmatizes our brothers and sisters.

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Ohio to limit food stamps for some adults [View all] OhioChick Sep 2013 OP

People without kids get shafted on social services pitbullgirl1965 Sep 2013 #1

Yes, we do! n/t ColesCountyDem Sep 2013 #28

That makes sense. darkangel218 Sep 2013 #2

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. closeupready Sep 2013 #5

You're being way too generous beerandjesus Sep 2013 #64

No actually, it doesn't philosslayer Sep 2013 #13

Mm maybe because the programs are only supposed to be an aid to assist them in a time of need cstanleytech Sep 2013 #20

So you're judging food stamp recipients now? philosslayer Sep 2013 #25

Look the fact is some do choose it. cstanleytech Sep 2013 #27

It's still judgemental philosslayer Sep 2013 #29

Everything is judgmental phil. cstanleytech Sep 2013 #34

Yes we do... philosslayer Sep 2013 #35

How do you think such policies get set? People got together and judged x cstanleytech Sep 2013 #36

Much like stating recipients of food stamps are merely making a "life-style choice" is simply a judg LanternWaste Sep 2013 #63

Way to go push for the dishonest cherry picker award there Lan, best of luck in your efforts. cstanleytech Sep 2013 #66

And availability is a right, it just comes with obligations. dkf Sep 2013 #52

It WAS a slippery slope.... beerandjesus Sep 2013 #65

Good point. nt JustanAngel Sep 2013 #82

So lets just make everyone samplegirl Sep 2013 #37

The only one saying that is you. nt cstanleytech Sep 2013 #42

Message auto-removed Name removed Sep 2013 #50

In the eyes of some it would appear so cstanleytech Sep 2013 #57

Working is "suffering"? mainer Sep 2013 #93

Food Stamps NOLALady Sep 2013 #76

Truth is JustanAngel Sep 2013 #81

Oh there could be plenty of jobs if government would scrape the entire trickle down cstanleytech Sep 2013 #88

What the heck is wrong with you? Poverty is not a lifestyle choice. Shame, shame, shame. marble falls Sep 2013 #41

If you had read my post rather than respond with a knee jerk reaction cstanleytech Sep 2013 #44

Back it up with some links, then...what %? Lars39 Sep 2013 #46

Nope no links I can find to anything thats done cstanleytech Sep 2013 #56

And only a fool would think less than 1% Lars39 Sep 2013 #61

Might want to reread then what the discussion is about then before you sound like one cstanleytech Sep 2013 #67

If I agreed with the mandate to work, yes. Lars39 Sep 2013 #70

In the real world not all people are employable. alp227 Sep 2013 #62

Got some examples alp? cstanleytech Sep 2013 #68

OMG, are you really that naive? alp227 Sep 2013 #74

First off cstanleytech Sep 2013 #87

What if many of the people are in their late sixties or early seventies? Bandit Sep 2013 #71

this whole thing doesn't apply to anyone over 50. (nt) noamnety Sep 2013 #89

The suggested requirements for funding transportation would cost more than the food stamp reduction JustanAngel Sep 2013 #78

Because there is dignity in earning benefits? YarnAddict Sep 2013 #55

Sounds like a job! JustanAngel Sep 2013 #83

Actually YarnAddict Sep 2013 #86

Volunteering can't be compulsory. bitchkitty Sep 2013 #92

I think right wing fever iamthebandfanman Sep 2013 #32

Nope, the right wing fever version would be calling to cut the entire assistance program cstanleytech Sep 2013 #58

This message was self-deleted by its author 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #3

Why, it's just "common sense": HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #10

Yes. all reasonable people agree 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #12

Really? SNAP and Tomahawk missiles? JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #15

No problemo. I'll self-delete. Sorry to offend. 99th_Monkey Sep 2013 #17

You have a right to be pissed theHandpuppet Sep 2013 #19

You see absolutely no correlation between our immense "Defense" spending and our very small Bandit Sep 2013 #72

SNAP funding and Pentagon spending are separate. JohnnyRingo Sep 2013 #85

Gee whiz just think if we had our god damn priorities gopiscrap Sep 2013 #4

Because some rich fucker needs abtax cut. liberal N proud Sep 2013 #6

This is the issue... salin Sep 2013 #22

Ding, ding, we have a winner! nt raccoon Sep 2013 #30

Did I miss the part where the gov said he was bringing good paying jobs to Ohio? Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author guyton Sep 2013 #8

To steal a quip from Lenin, the capitaists will sell us the wood to HardTimes99 Sep 2013 #11

Wow, celebrating the Red Terror. delta17 Sep 2013 #90

“The way to make money is to buy when blood is running in the streets.” John D. Rockefeller jtuck004 Sep 2013 #33

It's The God Damned Rich Who Are The Welfare Queens. They Steal The Money. TheMastersNemesis Sep 2013 #9

Oh I agree that the rich are not the job creators they were supposed to be cstanleytech Sep 2013 #21

And companies like Walmart pay such low wages which allows many to qualify for programs. Thinkingabout Sep 2013 #23

Oh Yay. State Sponsored Slave Labor. TalkingDog Sep 2013 #14

Yep. hunter Sep 2013 #39

Do they consider people with serious mental conditions "able bodied"? dkf Sep 2013 #51

They should line up at the airport and at all important events greymattermom Sep 2013 #16

Got to love them Tea-evangelist Iliyah Sep 2013 #18

because, you know, needing to eat is just a sign of personal weakness.... mike_c Sep 2013 #24

who will decide if every lone adult is 'able bodied' without mental health and physical exams? Sunlei Sep 2013 #26

In many situations JustanAngel Sep 2013 #79

Kasich JEFF9K Sep 2013 #31

Doing a similar thing in Kansas, but I think they are just kicking them off. n/t jtuck004 Sep 2013 #38

My guess: It's about getting black people out of white counties. hunter Sep 2013 #40

Real Agenda ode2joi Sep 2013 #53

Everyone should get food stamps, rich and poor alike killbotfactory Sep 2013 #43

Why should the rich get food stamps? demwing Sep 2013 #91

You mean, The Last Dem. Sep 2013 #45

The pentagon ha 92 BILLION dollars to wage war with..this year alone! workinclasszero Sep 2013 #47

+ 1000 SoapBox Sep 2013 #49

Hey, something we agree on here. Cut the pentagon budget. Wont happen though I have cstanleytech Sep 2013 #59

Starve the citizens to death. SoapBox Sep 2013 #48

If someone CHOOSES to starve to death YarnAddict Sep 2013 #54

80-100 hours per month Lars39 Sep 2013 #60

Read the article again YarnAddict Sep 2013 #73

But you are paid at least minimum wage, right? Lars39 Sep 2013 #75

Jobs november3rd Sep 2013 #69

So....if you are able bodied and MADem Sep 2013 #77

Beachwood, Independence Bank of America mortgage centers, which employ 1,000+, to close in October OhioChick Sep 2013 #80

Apparently "a similar type of activity" does not include education KamaAina Sep 2013 #84