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In the discussion thread: Feds sue anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan over back taxes [View all]

Wed Feb 22, 2012, 08:28 PM

saras (6,670 posts)

47. I think we have a winner.

"you know what, this war is illegal; this is why this war is illegal. This war is immoral; this is why this war is immoral. You killed my son for this. I don’t owe you anything. And if I live to be a million, I won’t owe you a penny"

If, in fact, the war is illegal, then it is being conducted by an illegitimate government, and they shouldn't get public money - ANYONE'S public money, not just hers, for their illegal activities. And when they get caught, like any other criminal, they should be made to pay it all back - in this case, that's all the war profits for anyone who profited from it. It should ALL go back the the American victims of the war, or back to all Americans.

How ELSE do we get there from here?

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103 replies	Author	Time	Post
Feds sue anti-war activist Cindy Sheehan over back taxes [View all]	hack89	Feb 2012	OP
Cindy should quote Santorum that the government can't force you to pay	sinkingfeeling	Feb 2012	#1
But they can put you in prison.	Tripod	Feb 2012	#88
I don't think she has a problem with that.	sinkingfeeling	Feb 2012	#95
I wouldn't want to be her.	Tripod	Feb 2012	#100
Sorry Cindy, as honourable a position as that may be, you ain't winning that fight...	truebrit71	Feb 2012	#2
Well, that's true enough, but	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#4
great minds think alike. My thought also but I limited it to a yr or 2.	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#6
Yeah, I could get behind that idea...	truebrit71	Feb 2012	#9
That sounds like a good proposal to me, Old and In the Way.	Uncle Joe	Feb 2012	#18
What about their wives, children, and siblings? nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#19
Not sure what you mean.	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#23
Based on what though?	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#28
Are children siblings paying federal taxes?	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#31
But not paying taxes is not a benefit for any type of service?	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#36
No on federal workers, possibly for federal agents.	Old and In the Way	Feb 2012	#37
Let's just make it so the spouse and the kids don't have to pay taxes on the soldier's income	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#38
Well, there is SGLI insurance--it doesn't bring back the deceased, but it's a pretty decent chunk of	MADem	Feb 2012	#58
Sounds like a good idea to me also.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#40
Until the spouse of a dead soldier becomes CEO of HP or works at Goldman Sachs.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#41
Well if someone remarries I think they would no longer have the exemption.	sabrina 1	Feb 2012	#42
Sounds like it just got a lot more complicated.	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#43
Wife? How about spouse?	24601	Feb 2012	#44
True. I've edited my post. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#45
Not sure she's expecting to win	Bradical79	Feb 2012	#77
She needs help	itsrobert	Feb 2012	#3
Here's an interesting thought. If your kid gets killed in the military, excuse family from paying	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#5
Sounds sort of like a payoff to me	frazzled	Feb 2012	#22
I see it as an addition to those death benefits you mention and agree with.	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#26
Taxes are taxes that everyone should pay, not a benefit	frazzled	Feb 2012	#27
Your quote " Death benefits, yes". Now you don't agree with this?	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#73
Or did and figured she stops a lot of harm and a trivial amount of good by not paying	saras	Feb 2012	#46
How is she harming somebody else's child?	girl gone mad	Feb 2012	#92
Why not ...	bayareaboy	Feb 2012	#7
If she paid as much as GE she'd get a rebate	dflprincess	Feb 2012	#50
ding ding ding ding ding..	2banon	Feb 2012	#53
EGGS ZACTLY!	bayareaboy	Feb 2012	#56
I thought this exact thing, too. I mean, there is something clearly wrong with our system when	IndyJones	Feb 2012	#60
this is not going to turn out well	SemperEadem	Feb 2012	#8
I suspect she wants to go to jail to make a statement.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 2012	#10
yes, it's not about her taxes	2pooped2pop	Feb 2012	#33
An admirable stance, akin to Thoreau's objections in 1848. I feel it will end similarly. . .	Journeyman	Feb 2012	#11
How did Thoreau's case end?	snot	Feb 2012	#16
He was carted off to jail . . .	Journeyman	Feb 2012	#35
Thank you! What a wonderful history!	snot	Feb 2012	#82
"Not the smartest fight to pick." True enough, look what happend to Wesley Snipes	cstanleytech	Feb 2012	#12
Mrs Sheehan's son enlisted for the military. When they are in a war zone they get hazardous duty pay	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#13
Yes they pay taxes while in a war zone.	fasttense	Feb 2012	#20
The Combat Zone Exclusion covers base pay, combat pay and reenilistment bonuses	hack89	Feb 2012	#25
And that is why the IRS ended up owing me money after the audit. n/t	fasttense	Feb 2012	#61
I knew something about the break they get during a war zone. By the way they earned every penny of	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#29
I suspect she will lose	2pooped2pop	Feb 2012	#34
We are out of Iraq. We had a legit purpose in going to Afghanistan. Now that OBL is dead	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#39
It always surprises me when people who believe we are out of Iraq and	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#68
I am sorry for her lose. Remember this is an all volunteer military. No one twisted her son to	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#71
The larger question is do you agree that our tax money should be used	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#79
No. But that and a cup of coffee isn't going to make a difference. Not until we have people in the	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#81
Cindy Sheehan was the first occupier, which I believe was pointed out by Will Pitt.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#83
Good for her. I wish her well. But pay your taxes.	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#84
Her act of conscience is not up for a vote any more than Baez's was or Thoreau's. nt	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#87
Good point. I leave you with that for now. I went off to watch Bill Maher on Yahoo.	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#91
Peace activists not paying taxes has a long tradition in this country.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#65
That is an american tradition. Enjoy all the benefits without paying taxes.	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#66
You may be confusing anti-war activists with GE or Goldman Sachs.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#76
Sheehan has been prepared from Day One to go to jail for her convictions.	snot	Feb 2012	#14
I think we have a winner.	saras	Feb 2012	#47
I also find it interesting that they've waited until now to sue her. She stopped paying in 2004.	snot	Feb 2012	#15
Have you stopped to think maybe she is trying to make a point. I think she is. That is fine if	southernyankeebelle	Feb 2012	#17
They waited until we pulled out of Iraq because they wanted to weaken her position politically.	truthisfreedom	Feb 2012	#86
Blade 4 is going to be awesome. nt	Snake Alchemist	Feb 2012	#21
I support Cindy nt	kgnu_fan	Feb 2012	#24
Excellent! Go Cindy!	JJW	Feb 2012	#30
Hmm	kenfrequed	Feb 2012	#32
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team)	sdghjtyjty	Feb 2012	#48
She'd better be ready to go to prison then	NICO9000	Feb 2012	#49
The IRS has power over SCOTUS, Congress, and the Executive branch	2banon	Feb 2012	#54
typical of the Feds, going after low hanging fruit, never mind the real tax evaders	2banon	Feb 2012	#51
Good for you, Cindy!!	proud2BlibKansan	Feb 2012	#52
How many political prisoners does the U.S. currently hold?	lonestarnot	Feb 2012	#55
Refusal to pay taxes is a crime, not dissent. nt	geek tragedy	Feb 2012	#90
Ah ha "... has no intention of paying her taxes."	MADem	Feb 2012	#57
Hmmm...interesting issue. I see where she's coming from but I don't think she's going to win,	IndyJones	Feb 2012	#59
Casey Sheehan would be so disapointed in his mother	DUIC	Feb 2012	#62
How disgusting to use Casey Sheehan to attack his mother.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#64
How disgusting of Cindy to use the memory of Casey Sheehan to protest	DUIC	Feb 2012	#69
No. Unlike yourself, Cindy Sheehan has the right to invoke	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#74
Not according to every other member of the Sheehan family that deplore Cindy's actions	DUIC	Feb 2012	#80
And you're attempting to speak for a dead person.	girl gone mad	Feb 2012	#93
Carly Sheehan, Pat Sheehan, and Andy Sheehan have all spoken out against Cindy's grandstanding	DUIC	Feb 2012	#94
Carly Sheehan, Pat Sheehan, and Andy Sheehan did not GIVE BIRTH to Casey, who no doubt,	LaydeeBug	Feb 2012	#96
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhttttt	DUIC	Feb 2012	#97
"She comes across as a complete douche bag". Thank you for being so open with your views.	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#99
I like to use the persons argument against themselves in my response	DUIC	Feb 2012	#102
That is "in a rage"? I do not think that word means what you think it means.	uppityperson	Feb 2012	#103
I imagine you actually believe you...	LanternWaste	Feb 2012	#70
I imagine that you actually believe ...	DUIC	Feb 2012	#72
My sympathies to you Cindy	Gringostan	Feb 2012	#63
Why not countersue with a wrongful death civil action against the government...	Mr_Jefferson_24	Feb 2012	#67
I fought the IRS many years back	Broderick	Feb 2012	#75
Using her dead son to chisel on her taxes. Might be as low as it gets.	Dreamer Tatum	Feb 2012	#78
K&R. for Cindy. I can't wait till she takes them to court... She has been waiting for this day.	midnight	Feb 2012	#85
And offers that as a defense? Ummm, yeah.	Dreamer Tatum	Feb 2012	#98
She's a wacko LaRouche/Paulbot who thinks taxes are unconstitutional.	geek tragedy	Feb 2012	#89
Just pay your damn taxes and employ a teacher.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#101

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