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Journeyman

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35. He was carted off to jail . . .
Wed Feb 22, 2012, 05:29 PM
Feb 2012

and an Aunt paid his taxes for him the next morning, to avoid scandal to the family name.

But then, he used the occasion as the impetus to write possibly the most explosive political essay of all time, Civil Disobedience, the document that has, so far, set in motion resistance movements from India to the U.S., and countless lands in between.

http://thoreau.eserver.org/civil.html

Cindy should quote Santorum that the government can't force you to pay sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #1
But they can put you in prison. Tripod Feb 2012 #88
I don't think she has a problem with that. sinkingfeeling Feb 2012 #95
I wouldn't want to be her. Tripod Feb 2012 #100
Sorry Cindy, as honourable a position as that may be, you ain't winning that fight... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #2
Well, that's true enough, but Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #4
great minds think alike. My thought also but I limited it to a yr or 2. uppityperson Feb 2012 #6
Yeah, I could get behind that idea... truebrit71 Feb 2012 #9
That sounds like a good proposal to me, Old and In the Way. Uncle Joe Feb 2012 #18
What about their wives, children, and siblings? nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #19
Not sure what you mean. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #23
Based on what though? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #28
Are children siblings paying federal taxes? Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #31
But not paying taxes is not a benefit for any type of service? Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #36
No on federal workers, possibly for federal agents. Old and In the Way Feb 2012 #37
Let's just make it so the spouse and the kids don't have to pay taxes on the soldier's income Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #38
Well, there is SGLI insurance--it doesn't bring back the deceased, but it's a pretty decent chunk of MADem Feb 2012 #58
Sounds like a good idea to me also. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #40
Until the spouse of a dead soldier becomes CEO of HP or works at Goldman Sachs. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #41
Well if someone remarries I think they would no longer have the exemption. sabrina 1 Feb 2012 #42
Sounds like it just got a lot more complicated. Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #43
Wife? How about spouse? 24601 Feb 2012 #44
True. I've edited my post. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #45
Not sure she's expecting to win Bradical79 Feb 2012 #77
She needs help itsrobert Feb 2012 #3
Here's an interesting thought. If your kid gets killed in the military, excuse family from paying uppityperson Feb 2012 #5
Sounds sort of like a payoff to me frazzled Feb 2012 #22
I see it as an addition to those death benefits you mention and agree with. uppityperson Feb 2012 #26
Taxes are taxes that everyone should pay, not a benefit frazzled Feb 2012 #27
Your quote " Death benefits, yes". Now you don't agree with this? uppityperson Feb 2012 #73
Or did and figured she stops a lot of harm and a trivial amount of good by not paying saras Feb 2012 #46
How is she harming somebody else's child? girl gone mad Feb 2012 #92
Why not ... bayareaboy Feb 2012 #7
If she paid as much as GE she'd get a rebate dflprincess Feb 2012 #50
ding ding ding ding ding.. 2banon Feb 2012 #53
EGGS ZACTLY! bayareaboy Feb 2012 #56
I thought this exact thing, too. I mean, there is something clearly wrong with our system when IndyJones Feb 2012 #60
this is not going to turn out well SemperEadem Feb 2012 #8
I suspect she wants to go to jail to make a statement. 2ndAmForComputers Feb 2012 #10
yes, it's not about her taxes 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #33
An admirable stance, akin to Thoreau's objections in 1848. I feel it will end similarly. . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #11
How did Thoreau's case end? snot Feb 2012 #16
He was carted off to jail . . . Journeyman Feb 2012 #35
Thank you! What a wonderful history! snot Feb 2012 #82
"Not the smartest fight to pick." True enough, look what happend to Wesley Snipes cstanleytech Feb 2012 #12
Mrs Sheehan's son enlisted for the military. When they are in a war zone they get hazardous duty pay southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #13
Yes they pay taxes while in a war zone. fasttense Feb 2012 #20
The Combat Zone Exclusion covers base pay, combat pay and reenilistment bonuses hack89 Feb 2012 #25
And that is why the IRS ended up owing me money after the audit. n/t fasttense Feb 2012 #61
I knew something about the break they get during a war zone. By the way they earned every penny of southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #29
I suspect she will lose 2pooped2pop Feb 2012 #34
We are out of Iraq. We had a legit purpose in going to Afghanistan. Now that OBL is dead southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #39
It always surprises me when people who believe we are out of Iraq and EFerrari Feb 2012 #68
I am sorry for her lose. Remember this is an all volunteer military. No one twisted her son to southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #71
The larger question is do you agree that our tax money should be used EFerrari Feb 2012 #79
No. But that and a cup of coffee isn't going to make a difference. Not until we have people in the southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #81
Cindy Sheehan was the first occupier, which I believe was pointed out by Will Pitt. EFerrari Feb 2012 #83
Good for her. I wish her well. But pay your taxes. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #84
Her act of conscience is not up for a vote any more than Baez's was or Thoreau's. nt EFerrari Feb 2012 #87
Good point. I leave you with that for now. I went off to watch Bill Maher on Yahoo. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #91
Peace activists not paying taxes has a long tradition in this country. EFerrari Feb 2012 #65
That is an american tradition. Enjoy all the benefits without paying taxes. southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #66
You may be confusing anti-war activists with GE or Goldman Sachs. EFerrari Feb 2012 #76
Sheehan has been prepared from Day One to go to jail for her convictions. snot Feb 2012 #14
I think we have a winner. saras Feb 2012 #47
I also find it interesting that they've waited until now to sue her. She stopped paying in 2004. snot Feb 2012 #15
Have you stopped to think maybe she is trying to make a point. I think she is. That is fine if southernyankeebelle Feb 2012 #17
They waited until we pulled out of Iraq because they wanted to weaken her position politically. truthisfreedom Feb 2012 #86
Blade 4 is going to be awesome. nt Snake Alchemist Feb 2012 #21
I support Cindy nt kgnu_fan Feb 2012 #24
Excellent! Go Cindy! JJW Feb 2012 #30
Hmm kenfrequed Feb 2012 #32
Spam deleted by uppityperson (MIR Team) sdghjtyjty Feb 2012 #48
She'd better be ready to go to prison then NICO9000 Feb 2012 #49
The IRS has power over SCOTUS, Congress, and the Executive branch 2banon Feb 2012 #54
typical of the Feds, going after low hanging fruit, never mind the real tax evaders 2banon Feb 2012 #51
Good for you, Cindy!! proud2BlibKansan Feb 2012 #52
How many political prisoners does the U.S. currently hold? lonestarnot Feb 2012 #55
Refusal to pay taxes is a crime, not dissent. nt geek tragedy Feb 2012 #90
Ah ha "... has no intention of paying her taxes." MADem Feb 2012 #57
Hmmm...interesting issue. I see where she's coming from but I don't think she's going to win, IndyJones Feb 2012 #59
Casey Sheehan would be so disapointed in his mother DUIC Feb 2012 #62
How disgusting to use Casey Sheehan to attack his mother. EFerrari Feb 2012 #64
How disgusting of Cindy to use the memory of Casey Sheehan to protest DUIC Feb 2012 #69
No. Unlike yourself, Cindy Sheehan has the right to invoke EFerrari Feb 2012 #74
Not according to every other member of the Sheehan family that deplore Cindy's actions DUIC Feb 2012 #80
And you're attempting to speak for a dead person. girl gone mad Feb 2012 #93
Carly Sheehan, Pat Sheehan, and Andy Sheehan have all spoken out against Cindy's grandstanding DUIC Feb 2012 #94
Carly Sheehan, Pat Sheehan, and Andy Sheehan did not GIVE BIRTH to Casey, who no doubt, LaydeeBug Feb 2012 #96
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggggggggghhhhhhttttt DUIC Feb 2012 #97
"She comes across as a complete douche bag". Thank you for being so open with your views. uppityperson Feb 2012 #99
I like to use the persons argument against themselves in my response DUIC Feb 2012 #102
That is "in a rage"? I do not think that word means what you think it means. uppityperson Feb 2012 #103
I imagine you actually believe you... LanternWaste Feb 2012 #70
I imagine that you actually believe ... DUIC Feb 2012 #72
My sympathies to you Cindy Gringostan Feb 2012 #63
Why not countersue with a wrongful death civil action against the government... Mr_Jefferson_24 Feb 2012 #67
I fought the IRS many years back Broderick Feb 2012 #75
Using her dead son to chisel on her taxes. Might be as low as it gets. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #78
K&R. for Cindy. I can't wait till she takes them to court... She has been waiting for this day. midnight Feb 2012 #85
And offers that as a defense? Ummm, yeah. Dreamer Tatum Feb 2012 #98
She's a wacko LaRouche/Paulbot who thinks taxes are unconstitutional. geek tragedy Feb 2012 #89
Just pay your damn taxes and employ a teacher. Fearless Feb 2012 #101
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