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34. Finally, a voice of reason and peace
Sat Aug 31, 2013, 05:37 PM
Aug 2013

Jimmy Carter has lived through many wars. Most of our presidents have also but few have learned any lessons from them. Bush is now touted for "saving" the Iraq people; he should have resigned as LBJ did when he knew the Vietnam War saved no one and the thousands of lives lost and billions of dollars spent were in vain.

I have worked hard for Obama and will support him in every way I can. I voted for him because I agreed with most of his policies but most of all because I thought he would get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan, decrease the military, and use negotiation in foreign policy. But I cannot and will never support a decision that will take us into another war, limited or not. He puts liberal Dems and our legislators in an hard place. How can the Dems not vote for military strikes when Obama says it is a moral cause and he needs to save face? If they do vote against military intervention will it look as if they are agreeing with the crazy hawks on the right? How many of our legislators now seriously regret that they voted for Bush's stupid and unnecessary war?

For many years I've marched for peace. That does not mean I think peace is easy and certainly not wimpy. Leaders like Martin Luther King Jr and Jimmy Carter learned how hard it is but they also learned any effort will bring better results than losing precious lives and giving our precious resources to the weapons contractors. I wish Obama would listen to him.

At last somebody is finally making sense.... HooptieWagon Aug 2013 #1
It ignores that both were tried already karynnj Aug 2013 #2
The government agreed to participate in Geneva II - insurgents did not. David__77 Aug 2013 #4
"from the rebels and Assad" karynnj Aug 2013 #35
It makes even less sense the U.S. has to kill a bunch of people to get people to the peace table. avaistheone1 Aug 2013 #5
We have no moral authority. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #11
I agree that a peace conference would be better - and Kerry (representing Obama) and Lavrov karynnj Aug 2013 #36
If the world says no, we should stay put cosmicone Aug 2013 #27
I keep hearing these arguments John2 Aug 2013 #33
What a lot of nonsense karynnj Aug 2013 #37
What the hell does Carter know? Mr.Bill Aug 2013 #3
Yeah. Enthusiast Aug 2013 #12
Look up "Carter doctrine" karynnj Aug 2013 #38
Blessed are the peacemakers. kentuck Aug 2013 #6
Really? Enthusiast Aug 2013 #13
There he is again—getting in the way. DAMMIT!!! I thought we got rid of him with Reagan! tofuandbeer Aug 2013 #7
I'm sorry that we didn't hear this from Obama. QuestForSense Aug 2013 #8
We did. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #10
Except Assad DID agree, as David_77 noted several hours before this post of yours. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #15
So with the rebels refusing to deal, how do you have peace talks? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #16
That's the question, isn't it? Scootaloo Aug 2013 #17
I did not make an incorrect assertion. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #18
Re-reading it, perhaps I did. Scootaloo Aug 2013 #20
Yeah, what you said, without the typo. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #21
"hte" is how I stick it to the system! DON'T OPPRESS ME! Scootaloo Aug 2013 #22
LOL SunSeeker Aug 2013 #23
Am I understanding correctly... devils chaplain Aug 2013 #25
Yes durablend Aug 2013 #29
No. As I understand it, the strike would not be to get get Assad at the table. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #30
+1000 n/t cosmicone Aug 2013 #28
Carter, the voice of reason newfie11 Aug 2013 #9
It's called statesmanship - and there's no MIC profits there, you see. Divernan Aug 2013 #14
remember this one,,, Douglas Carpenter Aug 2013 #19
A peace summit can be scarier than missiles to some. Festivito Aug 2013 #24
Well a first for me. Carter makes the right call. Obama should follow that advice. Safetykitten Aug 2013 #26
PEACE. What a novel idea in today's political world. Just what almost everyone wants though. Coyotl Aug 2013 #31
K&R for Carter. n/t Jefferson23 Aug 2013 #32
Finally, a voice of reason and peace locks Aug 2013 #34
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