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happyslug

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29. Sarin is toxic in small amount IF IT GETS INTO THE LUNGS
Tue Aug 27, 2013, 12:21 AM
Aug 2013

It takes a good bit more to penetrate the skin. Thus a Protective Mask (What the US Army calls a "Gas Mask&quot is all that is needed if the concentration is not to heavy. You need a Chemical suit if the concentration is heavy. Regular clothes can prevent Sarin from being absorbed into the skin. A complete Chemical suit would be better, but only needed if the Sarin is truly concentrated.

Home made rockets are NOT accurate enough to provide the needed concentration. One Rocket may have enough chemical to kill off all the insects in the area, but most humans will have no short term effect if they have some sort of mask to prevent the Sarin from getting into their lungs. You need many rockets and these home made rockets will tend to spread the Sarin around to much to be effective.

Side note: Do you know what is the main difference between Nerve gas (including Sarin) and Insecticide? Concentration. There are technical differences, but not enough to make any real difference if the concentration is to low or to high. The reports on Nerve gases say there are important differences between the nerves of Mammals and Insect, but that is poppycock, it is all the same nerve endings. Mammals being larger can withstand a larger dose, that is the big difference.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nerve_agent#G-Series

Hague is hoping someone will notice him. dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #1
No surprise there... FarPoint Aug 2013 #2
Riiiighht. Arctic Dave Aug 2013 #3
Sad thing is, this may be right. n/t AverageJoe90 Aug 2013 #4
Not likely. Chemical shells have a different design from normal high explosive. leveymg Aug 2013 #5
Damn scientists. GeorgeGist Aug 2013 #8
One, problem, you also need the same SHELL design in a Chemical Shell happyslug Aug 2013 #9
No. The wall thickness in HE shells is much greater, as shown. The difference is readily apparent leveymg Aug 2013 #10
However, from the outside, the shells look virtually identical. That tells me something leveymg Aug 2013 #11
No trained Artillery would fire such a round happyslug Aug 2013 #13
If someone repainted a chem round to appear to be an HE, would the handler be able to tell? leveymg Aug 2013 #15
You can tell, for each batch has been known to be different happyslug Aug 2013 #16
If someone intentionally wanted to have an artillery unit fire chemical shells by repainting them to leveymg Aug 2013 #17
About one shell, when it does NOT land where it is suppose to. happyslug Aug 2013 #18
What would the effect be on the ability of forward observers to spot random misses at night in the leveymg Aug 2013 #23
Mass Barrage. what are you thinking, WWI?? happyslug Aug 2013 #25
Thanks. This is very useful first-hand info about artillery. It largely confirms what I suspected. leveymg Aug 2013 #27
As to rockets, these would have to a mass firing of rockets happyslug Aug 2013 #26
The rockets that we've seen appear homemade and contain only 1-2 liters of agent leveymg Aug 2013 #28
Sarin is toxic in small amount IF IT GETS INTO THE LUNGS happyslug Aug 2013 #29
No the shell thickness would be less in chemical shells happyslug Aug 2013 #12
That's exactly my point - investigators would be able to see from the larger fragments that chemical leveymg Aug 2013 #14
We know who did it daleo Aug 2013 #6
+1 nt Javaman Aug 2013 #19
Evidence is coming in. Check my post here for links that have details: freshwest Aug 2013 #24
"The absence of evidence..." er, how does that go again? Comrade Grumpy Aug 2013 #7
anyone who suffocated to death from that 'gas' still has a lung full. test the dead. Sunlei Aug 2013 #20
give the shell pieces to those who lifted dna/finger prints off the boston bombers mess. Sunlei Aug 2013 #21
that's what the rebels are doing. they sent out samples for testing. KittyWampus Aug 2013 #22
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