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another_liberal

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58. I do realize LGBT people face discrimination . . .
Fri Aug 9, 2013, 02:37 PM
Aug 2013

I do realize LGBT people face discrimination in Russia, as they do in many other countries, including our own. What I do not believe is that such discrimination is officially orchestrated or even condoned by Russia's governing authorities. Yes, there are Duma members who have managed to pass a discriminatory law against gay people, but the Russian Duma is not as important as one might think. It is not even as powerful as the various State legislatures in this country. Russian authorities take their orders from the Kremlin, that means President Putin. I have yet to see anything from him suggesting that gay-bashing has become official policy.

The video (above) showing a confrontation between Russian homophobes and LGBT demonstrators is a case in point. When the police get involved, they can be seen separating the groups and hauling off the attackers, not those who were attacked.

As to my overall point: I am just suggesting that it may take a willingness to suffer abuse at the hands of these thugs for gay people in Russia to finally gain their rights. After all, that is what it took for Blacks and gay people to gain even a semblance of equal rights in this country.

What ? jakeXT Aug 2013 #1
LOL SunSeeker Aug 2013 #3
I will gladly sign it davidpdx Aug 2013 #2
A boycott is cruel to the athletes. Moving it is the best option. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #6
" I notice there are a lot of Canadian signatures on the Petition " dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #8
Turin does not have freshly built modern stadiums. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #35
How about Lillehammer? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2013 #45
Turin held the winter Olympics in 2006. Do the facilities need to be more modern than that? tammywammy Aug 2013 #62
They'd need some sprucing up and Italy is in bad financial shape. nt SunSeeker Aug 2013 #63
I agree davidpdx Aug 2013 #9
Russia is regressing as the world moves forward. Ash_F Aug 2013 #4
The population needs some education jakeXT Aug 2013 #5
etc. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #11
He'd fit right in with the majority segment of the House of Representatives, dontcha think? Myrina Aug 2013 #26
Has anyone even asked Vancouver if they want to do this? skepticscott Aug 2013 #7
I'm with you... Earth_First Aug 2013 #14
Good question davidpdx Aug 2013 #55
What does it matter, they'll never actually do it. hughee99 Aug 2013 #64
Of course it is skepticscott Aug 2013 #65
Maybe, I don't know. hughee99 Aug 2013 #66
If the IOC doesn't move it, then the athletes should go and speak out if they want. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #10
"maintain their ignorance" dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #12
There are, of course, no homophobic people in Canada. another_liberal Aug 2013 #13
Fail. That's British. Bernardo de La Paz Aug 2013 #19
OMG! And I thought the Monty Python players were all Chinese! another_liberal Aug 2013 #40
If we were to boycott every Olympics Elmergantry Aug 2013 #15
There has to be some minimum standard, don't you think? SunSeeker Aug 2013 #38
There's "policies we don't like" and there's "effectively legislating new pogroms." (nt) Posteritatis Aug 2013 #49
I support the cause but Renew Deal Aug 2013 #16
GOP Dilemma no_hypocrisy Aug 2013 #17
Just cancel the whole damn thing AngryAmish Aug 2013 #18
^^ this ^^ Myrina Aug 2013 #27
Signed and over 81,000 now. bluedigger Aug 2013 #20
Definately a worthwhile attempt. blackspade Aug 2013 #21
And people are signing this petition with a straight face? tuvor Aug 2013 #22
I doubt anybody expects any results. bluedigger Aug 2013 #28
Notwithstanding this particular issue dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #31
So protesting LGBT discrimination is stupid? dbackjon Aug 2013 #33
Why not go to the Olympics in Russia and protest there? another_liberal Aug 2013 #43
people do. and it isn't pretty arely staircase Aug 2013 #46
Looks to me like the fools who attacked the gay rights demonstraters were arrested. another_liberal Aug 2013 #50
I am not sure what point you are trying to make arely staircase Aug 2013 #57
I do realize LGBT people face discrimination . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #58
A law banning on "propaganda of nontraditional sexual orientation” is neither official nor discrimin LanternWaste Aug 2013 #60
Such a law has to be inforced by the Russian authorities. another_liberal Aug 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Aug 2013 #59
Signed. Thanks! Amonester Aug 2013 #23
Thanks. If you uncheck the further communications boxes you should be ok. SunSeeker Aug 2013 #37
Best way to snub the Russian Winter Olympics: Don't watch CanonRay Aug 2013 #24
That's probably true davidpdx Aug 2013 #52
Signed! dgibby Aug 2013 #25
done warrior1 Aug 2013 #29
Show of hands skepticscott Aug 2013 #30
Nice gesture but it won't happen besides The empressof all Aug 2013 #32
Just signed. Up to 87,000 now. B Stieg Aug 2013 #34
I say don't watch the opening ceremonies..pressure advertisers to pull out. Evasporque Aug 2013 #36
That might be the key davidpdx Aug 2013 #53
90278! Fearless Aug 2013 #39
Er, Vancouver already had the games last...how about Boston? Arkana Aug 2013 #41
If they do succeed in getting the Winter Olympics moved to British Columbia . . . another_liberal Aug 2013 #42
Closing in on 100k. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2013 #44
Sorry but the IOC responds to only 3 things- money, cocaine, and hookers - ask Mitt Romney underpants Aug 2013 #47
Interesting combination isn't it? davidpdx Aug 2013 #54
They also may have been more likely to respond dipsydoodle Aug 2013 #56
heck move it to Minnesota! big_dog Aug 2013 #48
If they won't move it...... DeSwiss Aug 2013 #51
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