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In the discussion thread: ‘We Are Stronger’: Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month [View all]

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Sat Feb 18, 2012, 08:28 PM

cleanhippie (14,506 posts)

115. Lookie there, more evasion of the point.

Something about leopards not changing their spots comes to mind.

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155 replies	Author	Time	Post
‘We Are Stronger’: Atheists To Hold Massive Rally On National Mall Next Month [View all]	Great Caesars Ghost	Feb 2012	OP
I'm an atheist going on record to say I wish organized atheists wouldn't pull acts like this in	blm	Feb 2012	#1
Yep. nt	onehandle	Feb 2012	#2
Why not?	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#4
Indeed. Why not, blm?	Auggie	Feb 2012	#9
woot!	SammyWinstonJack	Feb 2012	#107
You forget...	SkyDaddy7	Feb 2012	#148
When would those be? Fundraising never stops in DC any more.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#7
Mimicking them doesn't jive in my book.	blm	Feb 2012	#14
I rather agree, blm. Two dumbs don't make a right. They are already paranoid. Its like poking a bomb	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#28
I don't understand. Being atheist is dumb? or a rally in the Mall is dumb?	secondwind	Feb 2012	#55
no. what I am saying probably poorly is that if you poke at a bomb and it blows up in your face	roguevalley	Feb 2012	#98
Yes, openly stating you exist is exactly the same as	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#37
Every year is an election year.	Hissyspit	Feb 2012	#8
Today. In our new, 24/7 news/hype/reponse cycle ... rapid response team	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#18
.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#74
Which other groups should be silent during election years?	NAO	Feb 2012	#11
I agree completely nt	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#20
+1000	Canuckistanian	Feb 2012	#29
Taking the message to the streets	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#32
This message was self-deleted by its author	FrodosPet	Feb 2012	#34
+1	libmom74	Feb 2012	#54
Well said. I'd like to add, I dont think it is right to ask any group	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#77
What act?	ChadwickHenryWard	Feb 2012	#12
Brilliant for once.	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#19
This Great, I'm tired of being Ignored by my Leaders	bahrbearian	Feb 2012	#22
OK! Say I'm your leader. I'm here for you. What do you want?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#25
The right to decide for myself when and on what terms I become a parent.	wickerwoman	Feb 2012	#42
+ a gazillion	chervilant	Feb 2012	#81
Come over to Europe ...	Nihil	Feb 2012	#118
Would do, but I'm already in New Zealand.	wickerwoman	Feb 2012	#140
Ah, also a good choice!	Nihil	Feb 2012	#152
I agree, i don't get it at all and have no interest in it, it would be different	JI7	Feb 2012	#41
Why not? nt	Deep13	Feb 2012	#48
As a self described atheist........	HowHeThinks	Feb 2012	#58
hmm...	chervilant	Feb 2012	#84
Atheism vs. separation of church and state	primavera	Feb 2012	#102
IMHO	chervilant	Feb 2012	#143
I am disappointed in this post. Not because of your opinion but because you	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#78
I keep it to my self. I get why people do religion and don't care what they believe till it's shoved	blm	Feb 2012	#91
I understand. But speaking up for oneself is important.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#95
This is not arganized atheism, its organized REASON.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#131
I agree. Gives people who say Atheism is a religion something to point at.	bamacrat	Feb 2012	#142
They don't need an excuse or a reason to do that	DavidDvorkin	Feb 2012	#144
or in the 2 years leading up to the election...	BiggJawn	Feb 2012	#154
WHY NOT?	Taverner	Feb 2012	#155
Really, legislative equality for what?	Obamacare	Feb 2012	#3
Recognition as an organized religion?	onehandle	Feb 2012	#5
Is all "success" religion?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#23
From reasonrally.org	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#6
Sure! Probably 80% of Americans are already largely secular; whether they know it or not	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#26
How do you feel about the OP? nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#72
Hard to take you seriously when you just drop a turd and run. Tell me I am wrong	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#97
Did you know that in some states	JNelson6563	Feb 2012	#141
Funny how in this nation of "freedom of speech"	Fearless	Feb 2012	#10
Not the point. I don't think organized anti-religion is the cure for organized religion and it	blm	Feb 2012	#13
Good/God point. But? As an intermediary step? With some respect to tradition?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#15
Does organized religion need a cure? Sounds too much like a certain guy from WW2.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#30
Yes, the oppression Christians face in this country is absolutely overwhelming.	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#39
Freedom OF Religion, not for.	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#49
Whoever predicted 30 posts in the Godwin's Law pool, you've won	Rob H.	Feb 2012	#69
I think you misunderstood. He wasnt suggesting organized religion needed a cure.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#80
Looking at guys like Rick Santorum, I'm beginning to think it does	primavera	Feb 2012	#108
Hahahaha! Says the guy who advocates for a Theocracy.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#136
It isn't 'organized anti-religion'.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#33
Organized atheism is generally perceived as anti-religious, and that POV	humblebum	Feb 2012	#35
I don't care how it's perceived, when the flaw is with the people making the assessment.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#38
Yes, you exist. You have rights and you have value as a human being.	humblebum	Feb 2012	#43
The "several prominent atheists" you referred to range from atheists to anti-theists and not a damn	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#44
I'm sure they don't speak for all atheists, but they are responsible for the perceptions	humblebum	Feb 2012	#46
What?!?	chervilant	Feb 2012	#89
Like I said, good luck with that. nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#111
Classic...	chervilant	Feb 2012	#134
And with folks like you who perpetuate the bullshit, we need all the luck we can get.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#114
So by that logic, organized religion must be anti-athiest	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#53
You mean to say that organized religion is anti-non-belief? Boy, that's	humblebum	Feb 2012	#56
No, I wrote what I meant to say	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#61
Yes, you wrote just what I was thinking. But, of course, the poor,	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#65
Good. then we are agreed. Organized atheism is anti-religious. Nice talkin' to ya.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#106
If you think I agreed with you, your comprehension skills must be severely lacking	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#109
Agree or not, I specified ORGANIZED atheism, not	humblebum	Feb 2012	#110
They ridicule and condemn the adverse actions of organized religion. Big difference.	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#112
No. As a matter of fact, they do condemn and ridicule religion, and religious belief, as well. And	humblebum	Feb 2012	#113
So what would those "adverse actions" be?	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#122
Only in the way that ORGANIZED religion actively ridicule and condemn non-belief.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#117
This post was hidden by jury decision.	humblebum	Feb 2012	#119
BTW, organized atheism has a history of	humblebum	Feb 2012	#121
Really?	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#123
History usually indicates something past, but that can be used as an indicator	humblebum	Feb 2012	#124
Hogwash	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#125
+1000000	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#129
Major, it's not hogwash, it's bullshit.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#130
Right, the number killed in the name of religion is far greater.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#128
Yeah, much bigger than oppressing minorities and building a theocracy.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#127
No, I don't realize that. I don't distrust people without them giving me reason to.	Kurmudgeon	Feb 2012	#36
As long as shit like this keeps coming up	AtheistCrusader	Feb 2012	#40
Surely, this rally pisses off the right people.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 2012	#45
In an election year, a very bad idea. I would expect Obama to distance himself	humblebum	Feb 2012	#57
That's the point.	HowHeThinks	Feb 2012	#59
Hell, yeah! 'And just when IS a "good time" to broach the subject?'	Joseph8th	Feb 2012	#60
"20% of the population" - doubtful. Reliable sources please.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#105
Lookie there, more evasion of the point.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#115
You might want to consider displaying something other than	humblebum	Feb 2012	#120
I find your attitude to be so dishearteningly power-slaving that it borders on dehumanisation	stockholmer	Feb 2012	#103
Oh, nice one. Crusades. Yeah, you really got us there. And don't tell us to "control" ourselves.	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#66
Atheism is not anti-religion.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#47
Unfortunately, that's rarely the case. And that is just one of the reasons I am anti-religion. Not	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#68
I think some have different definitions of "anti-religious". You say you are not	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#76
I agree.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#87
Then why do atheists let the anti-religious become their spokesmen.	Leontius	Feb 2012	#101
People like Hitchens crave the media ... the media crave people like Hitchens ....	SomeGuyInEagan	Feb 2012	#116
Well, we won't be "mimicking" them	skepticscott	Feb 2012	#62
Its not ANTI-RELIGION. FFS, man, get a grip.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#135
this is a political rally	RainDog	Feb 2012	#147
I love the name, Reason Rally.	eyewall	Feb 2012	#16
Heck, I'm in love with Reason. Is that wrong?	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#17
Reason is never wrong,	eyewall	Feb 2012	#31
legislative equality?	madrchsod	Feb 2012	#21
Any that gives preference to religious views and people	dmallind	Feb 2012	#63
I don't believe it'll happen.	RUMMYisFROSTED	Feb 2012	#24
The mere fact that a group is discussing it, means it is happening far more than in the past	Brettongarcia	Feb 2012	#27
I'm opposed to atheism being pushed like a belief system	bhikkhu	Feb 2012	#50
It's called the Reason Rally.....for a reason.	dmallind	Feb 2012	#64
Lack of belief? I believe in plenty of things. Just not some made up man in the sky who hates fags.	lib_wit_it	Feb 2012	#70
I hear you.	randome	Feb 2012	#94
It's not about believing in not believing, it's about believing in not being oppressed.	Scuba	Feb 2012	#100
Me too. Let me know when you see that happening.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#137
Probably true - just the way the media puts it	bhikkhu	Feb 2012	#139
I'm not an atheist, but I support this. Eom	tavalon	Feb 2012	#51
Richard Dawkins, James Randi, Bad Religion, Dan Barker, Cristina Rad	Adenoid_Hynkel	Feb 2012	#52
I love Christina Rad's videos	stockholmer	Feb 2012	#104
Since many are ruled by groupthink, it's impt. to let others know	snot	Feb 2012	#67
It's about fucking time!	pscot	Feb 2012	#71
I'm so much of an atheist...	sofa king	Feb 2012	#73
God bless Atheists.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#79
That would sting more if you were real.	sofa king	Feb 2012	#82
Did not intend it to "sting" at all. It was intended to be a light-hearted	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#96
I'm sorry!	sofa king	Feb 2012	#145
Ok I get it. A little slow on this end. And I wish Pres Obama would kick	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#146
well, I thought you were both joking	RainDog	Feb 2012	#149
Call it the "Million Mind March"	Sabriel	Feb 2012	#75
Great Post for discussion on the Topic of Atheism	fascisthunter	Feb 2012	#83
They "encourage participants to claim their identity".	randome	Feb 2012	#85
Huh?	Skeeve	Feb 2012	#88
Huh?	randome	Feb 2012	#90
Damn, I wish I still lived in Southern Maryland!	kdmorris	Feb 2012	#86
Atheists and agnostics score higher in knowledge of world religions than "believers"	KansDem	Feb 2012	#92
I support the recognition of atheist	Gringostan	Feb 2012	#93
Um? American Atheists, a non-profit with tax breaks.nt	humblebum	Feb 2012	#126
Non-profit is not the same as 501(c)	Major Nikon	Feb 2012	#133
Not a RELIGIOUS non-profit, an EDUCATIONAL non-prophet.	cleanhippie	Feb 2012	#138
I'll be there in spirit. Oh, wait.	Scuba	Feb 2012	#99
I kinda hope those that are trying to convince atheists not to organize	BootinUp	Feb 2012	#132
Wish I could be there	Onceuponalife	Feb 2012	#150
Let's pray for good weather.	Bucky	Feb 2012	#151
We're booked and going.	RussBLib	Feb 2012	#153

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