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cbayer

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44. While I agree that more people are identifying as atheists
Sat Jul 20, 2013, 03:02 PM
Jul 2013

I think there are many factors to be taken into consideration when evaluating that data. One of the most important, and positive imo, is that it is becoming more acceptable to identify as such. As for "better educated", the data also supports that there is a strong correlation between poverty and religiosity. Now, perhaps if we see poverty eliminated.....

I think religion is here to stay, though it will change over time as it always has.

I don't know where in the world you get yours stats about Britain. I have a terrible connection right now, but I did find this:

In the 2011 Census, 14.1 million people, about a quarter of the entire population (25%) of England and Wales, said they had no religion, a rise of 6.4 million since 2001. The British Humanist Association (BHA) had encouraged people to tick the "No religion" box and said the fall was "astounding". It has calculated that Christians could be in a minority by 2018.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_atheism?

Note that that is census data and refers to "no religion" and not atheism.

Since this is so wildy different from what you postulate, do you have a link to support the data you are putting forward?
My wife keeps wanting me to attend the Promise Keepers conference this weekend exboyfil Jul 2013 #1
Good for you! calimary Jul 2013 #2
No one that values equality for all Americans should ever set foot in Promise Breakers meeting dbackjon Jul 2013 #24
Don't forget what Promise Keepers did IrishAyes Jul 2013 #49
Beverly Russell? exboyfil Jul 2013 #61
Sorry, that was so long ago I don't remember the names, and such a well known news story IrishAyes Jul 2013 #62
Thanks for the info exboyfil Jul 2013 #64
Without googling, I believe the mother's name was No Vested Interest Jul 2013 #68
Let me tell you about a PK hypocrite I once met. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2013 #71
Bullshit. Atman Jul 2013 #3
Are you dismissing the results of the survey? cbayer Jul 2013 #5
Yes. Atman Jul 2013 #7
Based on what? cbayer Jul 2013 #8
If it makes believing nonsense trendy and cool and popular, then yes from me NoOneMan Jul 2013 #14
It doesn't make being a believer any of those things. cbayer Jul 2013 #28
+1 R Merm Jul 2013 #36
Huge kudos to you for attending the Moral Monday events! cbayer Jul 2013 #37
A lot of atheists sneer at the religious left IrishAyes Jul 2013 #50
Some of them do more than sneer - they actively attack them. cbayer Jul 2013 #52
Well, perhaps the atheists' militant wing IrishAyes Jul 2013 #59
I wouldn't personally take it that far, lol, cbayer Jul 2013 #60
You're reading much more into it than what's there Gman Jul 2013 #12
What specifically leads you to believe that premise, and hence, denying the survey as valid? LanternWaste Jul 2013 #18
It contradicted the poster's own biases, that's what. Naughty survey! IrishAyes Jul 2013 #51
But I thought Progressives were satan worshipers????? Iliyah Jul 2013 #4
No, we worship (and presumably elect) Satin! kentauros Jul 2013 #48
"Religion has long been co-opted by religious conservatives as a vehicle for political gain, but pampango Jul 2013 #6
As long as they amb123 Jul 2013 #9
They will. Igel Jul 2013 #11
What if instead they support the 1st amendment's prohibition on government establishing 24601 Jul 2013 #16
The progressive and liberal religious people I know are also secularists. cbayer Jul 2013 #32
Who is Public Religion Research Institute? longship Jul 2013 #10
EJ Dionne is one of the authors of the study deutsey Jul 2013 #15
I posted this in Religion yesterday. Here's a link to their press release. cbayer Jul 2013 #29
Looks good. Thanks, friend. ;) nt longship Jul 2013 #33
Oh, we will see NoOneMan Jul 2013 #13
I don't believe in fairy tales. I believe in God! hrmjustin Jul 2013 #21
Zeus or Apollo? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #22
The Christian God. The Holy Trinity. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #23
Oh Yahweh? He's the one that made a man live in a whale, right? NoOneMan Jul 2013 #25
I said you have the right to believe it is a fairy tale but I disagree with you. hrmjustin Jul 2013 #26
. R Merm Jul 2013 #39
Those damn reindeer bullies... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2013 #40
Well said. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #55
No evolved/educated person takes those stories to be necessarily literal. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #54
There are tens of millions of Americans who DO think this stuff is the literal truth. Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #65
Well, even Mark Twain couldn't always be right. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #67
Good on you. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #53
What a load. I am assuming you think that of all progressive religious leaders, than. cbayer Jul 2013 #30
.... NMDemDist2 Jul 2013 #17
Groups like my synagogue. iandhr Jul 2013 #19
my Xtian born again friend worked for Obama this time around wordpix Jul 2013 #20
And hopefully non-believers will soon Zoeisright Jul 2013 #27
Never going to happen, imo, so cbayer Jul 2013 #31
"We"? JNelson6563 Jul 2013 #34
I am part of what religious community, Julie? cbayer Jul 2013 #35
Stick around. Please. IrishAyes Jul 2013 #56
Why would it "never" happen? The trendlines are going in a postiive direction in the Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #43
While I agree that more people are identifying as atheists cbayer Jul 2013 #44
From this: Arugula Latte Jul 2013 #45
If you go to the data, you will see that 24%, not 42%, clearly identify as atheist. cbayer Jul 2013 #47
We non-believing Unitarians are bound for world domination! displacedtexan Jul 2013 #38
I would give almost anything IrishAyes Jul 2013 #57
I have been a UU since 1979. Manifestor_of_Light Jul 2013 #70
How do religious progressives feel about Enthusiast Jul 2013 #41
Surveys I have seen show that belief is creationism is strongly correlated with cbayer Jul 2013 #46
I for one can assure you IrishAyes Jul 2013 #58
Not soon enough for me... truebluegreen Jul 2013 #42
Soon? how soon? darkangel218 Jul 2013 #63
Bwahahahaha! nt ZombieHorde Jul 2013 #66
Until they own a thousand radio stations, won't make a bit of difference Doctor_J Jul 2013 #69
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