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In reply to the discussion: 'No More Weapons!' billboard placed on US border [View all]montanto
(2,966 posts)38. The fact of "guns in Mexico"
is in no way proof, all by itself, of "gun running from the U.S. to Mexico." Most of us Gun Luvers would like to know serial numbers, makes, and models of fully automatic weapons that they crushed. Fully automatic weapons aren't available on every grocery-store shelf in the U.S., contrary to popular belief. Unnumbered weapons could have come from anywhere, including Mexico. Some of us would like more information before we take aim at innocent and law abiding gun owners here in the states.
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Speaking of logic... is there a gun law on the books that we have not begun to enforce?
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#67
"...Calderon supervised the destruction of more than 7,500 automatic rifles and handguns..."
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#2
Sorry, but in the technical (and legally VERY specific) language for firearms...
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#72
No, in the legal sense of the BATFE, who take a very dim view of unregistered automatic firearms.
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#86
You specifically mentioned hand-cranks. A hand-crank activated firearm is not classified...
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#107
Sure, put a person who lost their hand, and now has an "assist" arm, at the crank.
boppers
Feb 2012
#110
Facsinating how such "really big news" couldn't be bothered to have a picture.
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#4
We even got a picture of the sign/guns in the tulsa world newspaper this morning
madokie
Feb 2012
#66
This ongoing tragedy lies at the feet of the weapons industry, the weapons lobby,
baldguy
Feb 2012
#8
Which "responsable gun owners" can avoid by simply crossing an imaginary line on a map.
baldguy
Feb 2012
#30
FBI background checks, 1968 GCA, prohibited people, import restrictions, sales restrictions.....
Taitertots
Feb 2012
#118
"Interpreting the sign as an indication of shortage, US manufacturers raced to meet demand...."
Robb
Feb 2012
#10
7,500 automatic rifles could not possibly have been smuggled from the US into Mexico
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#18
Using the term "automatic" to describe a semi-automatic rifle is a cheap propaganda ploy
slackmaster
Feb 2012
#69
Using the term "automatic" to describe only a full-automatic rifle is a cheap propaganda ploy
boppers
Feb 2012
#75
For one thing it would represent about 75 MILLION dollars worth of firearms.
Atypical Liberal
Feb 2012
#47
"Auto" or "Semi-Auto" -- makes little difference. One can kill a lot of folks with either.
Hoyt
Feb 2012
#48
Actually it makes a world of difference if you're talking about where the weapons came from.
Kurska
Feb 2012
#51
It does when the narcos here are using full auto, grenades and rockrt launchers.nt
expatriate2mex
Feb 2012
#54
I beg your pardon but there is a huge distinction between semi-auto and full auto.
Lasher
Feb 2012
#55
but...but...but we have been told by Gun Luvers that thar ain't no gun running to Mexico
jpak
Feb 2012
#23
'Argument from authority' is acceptable if you agree with the authority?
friendly_iconoclast
Feb 2012
#27
Yeah - them traceable serial numbers that go back to Texas gun shops is a gummit conspiracy!
jpak
Feb 2012
#39
or - more likely - the traceable serial numbers that go back to the Mexican military and police
DUIC
Feb 2012
#42
Bingo!!!! They are using full auto weapons plus grenades and rocket launchers here.
expatriate2mex
Feb 2012
#53
The weapons in question are automatic, there is no way in hell the majority of them came from
Kurska
Feb 2012
#50
More important than the price, you require a Federal Firearms License to buy or own one.
Lasher
Feb 2012
#56
Not true. We've been saying that gun restrictionists are fibbing about the amount of gun running.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#68
You mean things entering into Mexico, illegally, are causing issues down there?
Dreamer Tatum
Feb 2012
#25
What a pendejo! To do what he asks would mean to stop arming his Policía Federal.
aikoaiko
Feb 2012
#31
Perhaps Mexico could have provided a list of make/model/serial numbers of those guns.....
PavePusher
Feb 2012
#37
How diifficult is it to convert a semi-automatic AK-47 knock-off to full auto?
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2012
#97
I'm not sure over how many years, whether it's since 2005 or 2007 or what.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2012
#114