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christx30

(6,241 posts)
122. The cynical side of me
Wed Jul 3, 2013, 09:44 AM
Jul 2013

thinks they know this is going to be a train wreck, and they are delaying enforcement until after the midterms. The rest of me reluctantly agrees.

Jeez Who Wrote The White House A Check rsmith6621 Jul 2013 #1
This smells like Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #57
Are you implying CORRUPTION was involved? Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #150
Shit. If the ACA doesn't get implemented, when are Ilsa Jul 2013 #2
I'm still waiting to see if there will be any savings--especially for those of us who already have yurbud Jul 2013 #103
We got a small rebate last year Ilsa Jul 2013 #111
IMO this Republican Health Insurance Bill is as corrupt as most politicians. Bandit Jul 2013 #3
How many republicans voted for this "Republican Health Insurance Bill"? pampango Jul 2013 #14
Who wrote the Bill? Bandit Jul 2013 #15
republicans also supported the EPA, a guaranteed annual income, cap-and-trade and high tariffs pampango Jul 2013 #36
Our political leadership ctsnowman Jul 2013 #118
Of course they didn't vote for it once it had President Obama's name on it. But totodeinhere Jul 2013 #35
It does not have Obama's name on, other than the derisive nickname, Obamacare, they gave it. pampango Jul 2013 #39
I meant it had Obama's name on it figuratively, not literally. totodeinhere Jul 2013 #45
And Democrats voted just as mindlessly (even the Progressive Caucus) - just for it rather pampango Jul 2013 #50
You are not understanding my point. I am explaining why the Republicans voted against totodeinhere Jul 2013 #51
Cynical politics AND the republican party has become much more conservative. pampango Jul 2013 #84
Most of that legislation you cited is from 40-50 years ago Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #110
The Massachusetts legislature was 85% Democratic at the time. pampango Jul 2013 #112
The progressives voted for it because it was this or nothing Doctor_J Jul 2013 #138
It's like NSA spying -- people support it strictly on the basis of who's advocating it at the moment villager Jul 2013 #78
exactly n/t Psephos Jul 2013 #99
Whatever it is, it isn't Republican Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #26
It is a Republican Bill it was 1st proposed to counter Hillary Care , then Rmoney implimented it in bahrbearian Jul 2013 #29
"Obamacare" was a Republican idea. pa28 Jul 2013 #52
Well, I agree with your opinion Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #56
Well, forcing businesses to provide insurance to employees, Art_from_Ark Jul 2013 #109
"this republiccan health insurance"...this is the funniest thing I have read in months here. WE OWN Safetykitten Jul 2013 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author JenniferJuniper Jul 2013 #77
No it won't be undone Iliyah Jul 2013 #4
And you know that how? nm rhett o rick Jul 2013 #18
I wonder how a 1 year delay will positively impact unscrupulous sleazeballs who plan to dump. . . Journeyman Jul 2013 #5
I give up on this administration. GentryDixon Jul 2013 #6
Im with you. He is a joke BigD_95 Jul 2013 #149
Sheesh. My work hours were cut to no more than 29 per week - lynne Jul 2013 #7
No because the mandate will kick in in 2015, anyway. Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #22
The mandate will kick-in in 2015. At least that's what we're now told - lynne Jul 2013 #30
Yes, and the exchanges won't work properly either Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #40
And in late 2014, it'll "kick in" in 2017, perhaps? Scootaloo Jul 2013 #101
Why would they do this? bunnies Jul 2013 #8
I believe you answered your own question KansDem Jul 2013 #9
Im afraid of that too. bunnies Jul 2013 #16
I think so too. avaistheone1 Jul 2013 #49
The reason is to delay the bad effects until after the 2014 elections. Pterodactyl Jul 2013 #151
avoiding Wall Street crash medeak Jul 2013 #10
Almost like watering down Rolling Rock. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #11
now that is funny dembotoz Jul 2013 #79
Thx. The joke is sort of an acquired taste. n/t RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #81
But, but, but... I thought Obama could not do much with just a stroke of his pen? salib Jul 2013 #12
That Papa Johns weenie must be pleased Teamster Jeff Jul 2013 #13
The IRS is busy "encouraging" enlightenment Jul 2013 #152
First reaction decayincl Jul 2013 #17
Brilliant!! The President's three-dimensional chessplaying skills are getting even better!!! RufusTFirefly Jul 2013 #19
Obummer. Again. PSPS Jul 2013 #20
IMHO this is FUBAR Duckwraps Jul 2013 #21
If they can do this... subterranean Jul 2013 #23
Exactly Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #53
Well, ya see, it's like this. Obama is not emperor, but the next republican can do ANYTHING. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #93
Excellent point. A future administration can just stop enforcing all of it. (nt) nessa Jul 2013 #121
Only things like this can be implemented by executive decree Doctor_J Jul 2013 #137
This is going to make the 2014 elections even more interesting, indeed. eom Purveyor Jul 2013 #24
What provision of the law allows this? Is this even legal? David__77 Jul 2013 #25
It was just a strong suggestion! Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #46
But *I* can't opt out of the mandate Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #27
Mission accomplished! n/t drdtroit Jul 2013 #94
Maybe you should incorporate Doctor_J Jul 2013 #147
I think I figured it out - it's health care workers (low-paid) Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #28
This mess is CRAZY!! LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #31
WH doesn't want Dems to get creamed in 2014 elections nm MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #32
You nailed it. n/t cigsandcoffee Jul 2013 #38
Corporations don't vote - their employees do Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #43
Why would Dems get creamed in 2014, Seeking Serenity Jul 2013 #54
Yeah this increases voter apathy Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #55
If Obama care causes a bad surprise MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #62
True Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #66
Very good point! LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #89
Then why quakerboy Jul 2013 #63
Maybe the law truly will be a disaster MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #65
Companies have already started to do this Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #70
They've been doing that anyway, for years. quakerboy Jul 2013 #108
Hi Manny! I posted this on July 1st Safetykitten Jul 2013 #68
I'd like to see that commercial as well! MannyGoldstein Jul 2013 #69
But I thought the thundering success of the 2014 implementation was going to HELP Dems! Doctor_J Jul 2013 #141
I know, right. This was supposed to help every Dem out there!!! HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #143
ROFL, "strongly encourage" is the new Obamacare. forestpath Jul 2013 #33
And the individual-mandate-or-get-IRS-penalized still stands? WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2013 #34
A decision made behind closed doors. Ash_F Jul 2013 #37
This hurts just thinking about this Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #41
Single Payer DallasNE Jul 2013 #42
That is what many of said that favored single payer Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #47
Fuck this shit! Single payer now!! m/t eridani Jul 2013 #44
+1 I concur Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #60
+ 1,000,000 suffragette Jul 2013 #100
"It shouldn't be delayed...it should be repealed" medeak Jul 2013 #48
Some of that article is just silly quakerboy Jul 2013 #67
It was interesting but am critical thinker medeak Jul 2013 #72
Im honestly not sure if you are trying to be ironically insulting, or funny, or what quakerboy Jul 2013 #107
another lie another broken promise bowens43 Jul 2013 #58
Well, well, well, like this clusterfuck for a clusterfuck was faster than I thought. Wait though... Safetykitten Jul 2013 #59
single payer in 2016! otherone Jul 2013 #64
+1000 abelenkpe Jul 2013 #71
Just remember! RGR375 Jul 2013 #80
I wish I could opt out of the hike in my self-insurance. AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #73
Yeah this delay is going to add fuel to the fire Harmony Blue Jul 2013 #74
How would the ACA cause your price to increase? quakerboy Jul 2013 #106
See posts 97 and 98. AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #113
I think that 2 different things are getting conflated, and they are imporant and distinct. quakerboy Jul 2013 #146
Here's an article I found that articulates my concern AngryOldDem Jul 2013 #148
Shocked, shocked, I tell ya! TransitJohn Jul 2013 #75
Correct. Safetykitten Jul 2013 #76
He sure roped the dopes, eh? (n/t) SMC22307 Jul 2013 #85
We knew Obama was an excellent boxer Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #117
Heh heh. SMC22307 Jul 2013 #159
Sequesterized ACA but not the NSA. L0oniX Jul 2013 #82
Pretty Darn Much LOoniX LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #90
The vast majority of Obamacare is still on schedule ... Alhena Jul 2013 #83
Why are post like these ^^^^ LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #92
I wonder though if they are doing this because they are trying to counter what employers are doing cstanleytech Jul 2013 #86
But this won't change - and it's already almost all done Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #114
Then they need to lower the hours even more say to 8 hours a week to qualify for the coverage. cstanleytech Jul 2013 #133
Well, why was this written in the bill in the first place? Yo_Mama Jul 2013 #142
I can't wait to hear the Obama admin explanation for THIS Jessy169 Jul 2013 #87
What the fucking hell?! markpkessinger Jul 2013 #88
I hope that legal action can be taken to force the administration to enforce the law. David__77 Jul 2013 #91
Maybe if businesses weren't so gung-ho on sticking their fat asses between people and healthcare gtar100 Jul 2013 #95
LOL- no fucking surprise there Marrah_G Jul 2013 #96
Exactly Cal Carpenter Jul 2013 #115
Am I correct in expecting that the mandate, for self-employed people,... GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #97
That's downright criminal... LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #98
Your scenario is better than ours. Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #119
That's terrible! So the question is, where is the "affordable"... GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #125
The entire thing, from start to finish, Le Taz Hot Jul 2013 #129
Wish I could disagree with you, but I cannot...nt GReedDiamond Jul 2013 #130
Monthly Premiums for Obamacare yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #124
So, screw workers and STILL give Repugs plenty of anti-Obamacare ammunition. MotherPetrie Jul 2013 #102
Oh good Politicalboi Jul 2013 #104
Health SamKnause Jul 2013 #105
My state is way behind implementation Puzzledtraveller Jul 2013 #116
Obama caved again. Conium Jul 2013 #120
Caved? Played his roll just as scripted. FiveGoodMen Jul 2013 #154
The cynical side of me christx30 Jul 2013 #122
Implementation of Obamacare yeoman6987 Jul 2013 #126
This does nothing but HURT THE POOR!!!!!! HeroInAHalfShell Jul 2013 #123
"This actually helps workers" - more 8th Dimensional Chess? leveymg Jul 2013 #127
of the 1%, for the 1%, by the 1%.... mike_c Jul 2013 #128
And the INDIVIDUAL MANDATE is still in place.... LovingA2andMI Jul 2013 #131
Weak Sauce. They_Live Jul 2013 #132
https://www.healthcare.gov Dystram Jul 2013 #134
I would be eligible for Medicaid Jamastiene Jul 2013 #157
Well, let's see that just leaves...... DeSwiss Jul 2013 #135
Wow Doctor_J Jul 2013 #136
He's sold out the progressives again Doctor_J Jul 2013 #139
Yeah this is worriesome... jimlup Jul 2013 #140
Not a republican program. Not a Democratic program. Jakes Progress Jul 2013 #144
They only admit to listening to business. GeorgeGist Jul 2013 #145
Three dimensional metaphysical chess Fearless Jul 2013 #153
Drop the age limit on Medicare to birth. davidwparker Jul 2013 #155
that is what i did (checked the W4 box) sweetapogee Jul 2013 #156
They only delayed the employer madate,...! DailyGrind51 Jul 2013 #158
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