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2. NOTE SLIDE 2: Voice recognition and Internet are part of PRISM - it isn't just metadata!

Sat Jun 29, 2013, 07:46 PM

Jun 2013

PRINTAURA automates the traffic flow. SCISSORS and Protocol Exploitation sort data types for analysis in NUCLEON (voice), PINWALE (video), MAINWAY (call records) and MARINA (Internet records).

In addition to NUCLEON, there is a second voice data program named CONVEYANCE. Obviously, voice content is being acquired as part of the same program. They appear to still be lying to us.

Metadata goes to MARINA and MAINWAY.

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Newly Released NSA Slides Explain the PRISM Data-Collection Program [View all] Hissyspit Jun 2013 OP

There's never been a better time to turn on, tune in and drop out NoOneMan Jun 2013 #1

You should see the first George Lucas film, "THX-1138". It is about just that. leveymg Jun 2013 #5

THX-1138 is a classic film, no doubt. nt Enthusiast Jun 2013 #38

NOTE SLIDE 2: Voice recognition and Internet are part of PRISM - it isn't just metadata! leveymg Jun 2013 #2

Everything. This must be the latest release from Ed. wtmusic Jun 2013 #6

NOTE SLIDE 3: Voice data appears to be Content Type: STORED COMMS (Except VoIP) leveymg Jun 2013 #8

NOTE SLIDE 7: EMAIL and CHAT are included in PRISM database. Distinction between SURVEILLANCE and leveymg Jun 2013 #10

Obama did not say that with regard to foreign targets, which is what PRISM targets. pnwmom Jun 2013 #15

Yes, he did. You're making a false distinction. Both parts go through a single NSA database, and leveymg Jun 2013 #25

Congratulations, you've just proved that the President said there's no content in the database. pnwmom Jun 2013 #27

Slide 3 shows there is A-J "types of Content" in the database, including email, VoIP, and the leveymg Jun 2013 #42

NOTE B SLIDE 3: NSA intercepts email, on-line chats in real-time, CONTENT TYPES C,D leveymg Jun 2013 #53

You're confusing two separate issues. Internal US surveillance involves the use of pnwmom Jun 2013 #14

No. They are part of the same NSA database. This proves that fact. See comments below. leveymg Jun 2013 #22

How and where does it prove that? nt pnwmom Jun 2013 #36

I was surprised to see this comes from an FBI data collection apparatus. dkf Jul 2013 #60

The law doesn't even permit surveillance of metadata. wtmusic Jun 2013 #34

The metadata focus is the shiny object. The issues are email and profiling - the system profiles leveymg Jun 2013 #40

Exactly - and it's critical to note that interception or even intending to intercept is a crime. wtmusic Jun 2013 #41

Unless you're AT&T, in which case, all is forgiven, per Jewel. Carry on, citizen. leveymg Jun 2013 #45

The Verizon metadata leak was a totally different thing benh57 Jun 2013 #57

They are just two facets of the same NSA program. Look at Slide 1 - US voice content (STORED COMMS) leveymg Jul 2013 #61

Interesting. secondvariety Jun 2013 #3

Questions: JDPriestly Jun 2013 #4

I'm pissed that my tax dollars went to designing that cheesy "Prism" logo. nt wtmusic Jun 2013 #7

It's supposed to look all Star Warsy, Pink Floydy, Omni Consumer Productsy NBachers Jun 2013 #28

Anyone who uses Arial Book for a logo should be waterboarded wtmusic Jun 2013 #32

On the serious side of life; kitt6 Jun 2013 #9

Even the flow-charts look evil! Ash_F Jun 2013 #11

What this tells us: Obama was lying to us when he said "there's no content" in the NSA's PRISM leveymg Jun 2013 #12

The only thing it tells us is that you didn't bother to read the first sentence of the article: pnwmom Jun 2013 #16

This new information shows they are two parts of the same NSA database. See my comment below. leveymg Jun 2013 #18

No, it doesn't show that. n/t pnwmom Jun 2013 #20

Obviously, you have no basis to continue asserting that falsehood, or else you would tell us leveymg Jun 2013 #23

I can't prove a negative. But you can prove a positive. Where DOES it say that in the OP? pnwmom Jun 2013 #24

Eleven hours on this thread and you are the only skeptic ... Kolesar Jun 2013 #50

Save your breath. This is your "dining room table" moment. PSPS Jun 2013 #46

Boy, do you have that one reversed. The reasoned argument in this one is all leveymg Jun 2013 #51

Saying it does, doesn't make it so Godhumor Jun 2013 #43

Those 117K are just those who are targeted - not how many are being looked at "2 hops out" leveymg Jun 2013 #44

So PRISM involves "foreign targets operating outside the United States" pnwmom Jun 2013 #13

All US telco traffic is intercepted by NSA. The FISA Court order released earlier shows that. leveymg Jun 2013 #17

That's not what the article in the OP says, and it links to an older article pnwmom Jun 2013 #19

That argument is over how NSA gets the data from the 9 companies. It's extraneous to the leveymg Jun 2013 #21

What a shitty piece of software. wtmusic Jun 2013 #26

"LOL - Microsoft first to fall in bed with these scum" wtmusic Jun 2013 #29

Please tell me ... GeorgeGist Jun 2013 #30

I seriously wish I could. think Jun 2013 #33

"51% confidence." DirkGently Jun 2013 #31

Maybe a Glenn Beck chalkboard... Grassy Knoll Jun 2013 #35

Next week kitt6 Jun 2013 #37

Shoot the messengers and go shopping. Coccydynia Jun 2013 #39

In other words, everyone from Obama on down is lying to us or is making stuff up if they don't know PSPS Jun 2013 #47

14. MY (fake) security beats your right to privacy, you libertarian-naderite commie-teabagger. idwiyo Jun 2013 #59

Pinwale - NYT Story 2005. This sh*t's been going on too long... NoodleyAppendage Jun 2013 #48

I love how the corporate contractors call spying on people just a product line. fasttense Jun 2013 #49

"The program is court-approved" DCBob Jun 2013 #52

That's exactly the problem. The 2008 FISA Amendment gave NSA too much room to get creative leveymg Jun 2013 #54

Kick nt Hissyspit Jun 2013 #55

kick idwiyo Jun 2013 #56

Kick. Luminous Animal Jun 2013 #58