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Divernan

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41. Thanks to Ellsburg, the Vietnam memorial wall is "only" 75 meters long.

Tue Jun 11, 2013, 06:03 AM

Jun 2013

We owe Ellsberg a huge thank you for this article, just as the Vietnamese and the parents of those US soldiers sent to their deaths in Vietnam are in his debt for the exposing of the hollowness of the reasons for that war.

Remember Vietnam? The families of the 58,195 American men and women who died there have not forgotten. That's how many names are memorialized on the Vietnam war memorial wall in DC. Were it not for Daniel Ellsberg, how many more thousands and thousands of Americans would have died in that war? How many more Vietnamese?

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Ellsberg: Snowden’s NSA leak more important than my Pentagon Papers [View all] Divernan Jun 2013 OP

Dismisses court warrant under FISA as "kangaroo court with rubber stamp." Divernan Jun 2013 #1

there will be people here shortly to tell us that ellsberg is mistaken.. frylock Jun 2013 #2

Scurrying around right now divying up the attack assignments. Divernan Jun 2013 #3

There are people here who would have crucified Ellsberg in 1971. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2013 #4

i agree frylock Jun 2013 #5

I guess they probably would have been more likely to do so if Nixon were a Democrat at the time... cascadiance Jun 2013 #22

Ellsberg never loved him Catherina Jun 2013 #9

And he doesn't understand how the government works Doctor_J Jun 2013 #15

In a way it is sad Harmony Blue Jun 2013 #24

Ellsburg' was a leak of history. Snowden's appears to be an active program. The damage isn't 24601 Jun 2013 #33

Oh, sweetie! Vietnam was NOT history when Ellsberg leaked it! Divernan Jun 2013 #39

Bless your little heart, but your information is inaccurate. As noted below, and I'll include the 24601 Jun 2013 #44

You're wrong. The Vietnam War was still raging in 1971. Divernan Jun 2013 #45

There is a complete disconnect on your implication. The Pentagon Papers was a study that showed how 24601 Jun 2013 #46

it's knee jerks though that are causing alot of harm PatrynXX Jun 2013 #6

Ellsberg has been consistent and always ready to speak his mind (nt) Babel_17 Jun 2013 #7

Well actually the story of Ellsberg is that he radically changed grantcart Jun 2013 #13

Yeah, I was talking of the evolved Ellsberg Babel_17 Jun 2013 #38

Ellsberg just wanted a pony Doctor_J Jun 2013 #8

I don't want a pony... nebenaube Jun 2013 #28

Ellsberg has secret info that he won't disclose Progressive dog Jun 2013 #10

His opinion means far more than yours, because well, he's intelligent and informed Dragonfli Jun 2013 #19

Where did I claim that I got to write op eds for the Guardian Progressive dog Jun 2013 #23

I don't know what you're talking about, I responded to this "Why does Ellsberg's opinion Dragonfli Jun 2013 #29

The OP uses Ellsburg to support the claims of Snowden Progressive dog Jun 2013 #34

I maintain Ellsberg's opinion has a great deal of validity concerning the topic Dragonfli Jun 2013 #36

Well stated, Dragonfli Divernan Jun 2013 #40

Ellsberg is now an expert on stuff that takes up a paragraph Progressive dog Jun 2013 #43

What has Ellsberg done for me lately!? Ash_F Jun 2013 #11

Between Benghazi and Snowden, the risks of privatization should be obvious to government. aquart Jun 2013 #12

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This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #16

For we who were sentient beings during Watergate, the DU loyalists' spin is deja vu Divernan Jun 2013 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author mother earth Jun 2013 #18

Kids, this isn't about who likes who, or who sides with who. snot Jun 2013 #20

Thank you. nt woo me with science Jun 2013 #26

Thank You as well. /nt think Jun 2013 #27

important (and infuriating) post n/t Psephos Jun 2013 #30

Thank you idwiyo Jun 2013 #31

Obviously Ellsberg is a Republican plant! burnodo Jun 2013 #21

K&R woo me with science Jun 2013 #25

K&R idwiyo Jun 2013 #32

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jun 2013 #35

You are very welcome. Divernan Jun 2013 #42

Woodward went insane, too. railsback Jun 2013 #37

Thanks to Ellsburg, the Vietnam memorial wall is "only" 75 meters long. Divernan Jun 2013 #41