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Demo_Chris

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68. The minute the mandate and penalties hit the GOP is going to use it to flog our candidates...

Tue Jun 4, 2013, 01:56 AM

Jun 2013

They will be talking out of both sides of their mouthes of course. They'll campaign by making sure everyone knows they lost their tax refund to the Obamacare penalty -- and at the same time they'll be underfunding the assistance, raising the threshold at which assistance is available, and ramming through harsher penalties for those who refuse to buy. And why not, our party is the one left holding the bag. We're the ones who decided healthcare reform was as simple as an insurance mandate.

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Two-Thirds of Americans Don't Know If They Will Insure Under Obamacare [View all] Redfairen Jun 2013 OP

Experience corrects ignorance. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #1

It's unclear what it means. If we don't change our insurance after implementation from what we 24601 Jun 2013 #9

It appears that constsant Republican disinformation and propaganda have worked. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2013 #2

I don't believe anything that comes from cnbs. /nt still_one Jun 2013 #3

I have every piece of mail from the government for the last three years Fumesucker Jun 2013 #4

That is the problem, CNBS and others have been bashing it for 2 years, then do this poll based to still_one Jun 2013 #33

DON'T BUY CRAPSURANCE, instead use the Community Health Centers in Obamacare! grahamhgreen Jun 2013 #5

That only goes so far, depending on your need magellan Jun 2013 #6

The closest is three hours drive from me... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #7

Send your Thanks to Cryptoad Jun 2013 #10

This isn't just Texas. Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #13

^^ This ^^ Myrina Jun 2013 #25

Which plan did you choose? Politicub Jun 2013 #41

Even if Obamacare had policies that only cost a hundred a month... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #43

That's just not true. The poor and desperate will be covered by an expanded Medicaid program. Zen Democrat Jun 2013 #55

We'll see how that actually works out... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #67

Having insurance Cryptoad Jun 2013 #12

Have you been to one of these? I checked your link and yes, the clinic where there is a Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #23

Do all states have to have these? lark Jun 2013 #45

Whether they qualify for assistance or not... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #8

Wrong.......If you can't afford it ,,,,,you can afford it.. Cryptoad Jun 2013 #11

To use your vernacular Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #14

Purported to be??? LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #18

The hatred for the president is a greater motivator than facts. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #22

It is crappy policy, compare it to the rest of the developed world Bluenorthwest Jun 2013 #24

When I see people who don't know about the policy but just regurgitate what they hear because Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #29

that poster says the Clean Air Act doesn't apply to San Francisco, so... CreekDog Jun 2013 #34

The problem is that it's crappy insurance Yo_Mama Jun 2013 #70

That makes it all the more likely people will opt for the fine. Myrina Jun 2013 #28

the fine is avoidable !! quadrature Jun 2013 #59

Even better! Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #31

I'm sorry, but the more I look at this, the more I'm upset it wasn't struck down Ter Jun 2013 #72

So the fine for not buying what I cannot afford is only $300 a year for my family? Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #44

You are just making crap up Politicub Jun 2013 #42

I've been around since 2001 Le Taz Hot Jun 2013 #47

I believe that's the MAXIMUM fine (actually $695), it's not a set amount. n/t hughee99 Jun 2013 #63

There shouldn't be any cost Ter Jun 2013 #71

Do you have to pay all up front? Autumn Colors Jun 2013 #15

Call or contact someone from CT about it. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #19

they apply the credit when you buy the policy. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2013 #27

When you buy through the exchange, they take care of the subsidy and you only pay your part of the kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #38

If the state doesn't set one up it becomes a federal exchange. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #49

my wifes employer still have`t figured out how it will affect their employees madrchsod Jun 2013 #16

Considering the South Carolina legislature has just "nullified" the ACA, I'm at a real loss... StandingInLeftField Jun 2013 #17

The South Carolina Legislature cannot "nullify" a Federal Law Drale Jun 2013 #26

"Obama administration has done an exceptionally poor job of informing the public about the ACA" Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #30

It's a good law IF you are already well off Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #46

Dunno zipplewrath Jun 2013 #57

The minute the mandate and penalties hit the GOP is going to use it to flog our candidates... Demo_Chris Jun 2013 #68

If they raise the threshold, they'll exempt more people zipplewrath Jun 2013 #69

they are leaving this to hopemountain Jun 2013 #53

Yes, I know, but they should've done a much better job informing the public. Commercials, Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2013 #65

So look for 750 bucks less in your tax return, if you do get any money back. Safetykitten Jun 2013 #20

For many it will depend on price. Marrah_G Jun 2013 #21

The premiums will be subsidized. I'll be getting a policy for no more than $50 a month. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #36

Oh, that's great :) Marrah_G Jun 2013 #39

We need to hear more of that. LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #50

how much will the fine be and is the fine tax deductable the next year? Sunlei Jun 2013 #32

I will qualify and, YES, I will purchase it. kestrel91316 Jun 2013 #35

"Nearly 50 percent believe the ACA will make it more difficult for them to get tests and procedures Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #37

Since those that already have health care insurance aren't likely to be part of that group... LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #51

I would think if testings and procedures are done right LiberalFighter Jun 2013 #52

Yeah. Plus, there is a heavy emphasis in the Kaiser system on preventive health care Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #54

Here we see people repeating GOP talking points. maxsolomon Jun 2013 #61

It has to be something like that. Adsos Letter Jun 2013 #62

I'm not sure because I live in a state that won't implement the program nobodyspecial Jun 2013 #40

why they won't konnie Jun 2013 #48

Reduction in their refund zipplewrath Jun 2013 #56

Sick uninsured people will buy these plans, I think. Laelth Jun 2013 #60

2/3rds already are zipplewrath Jun 2013 #58

I really hope I don't end up on my employer's insurance provided plan... Humanist_Activist Jun 2013 #64

Unfortunately even if they don't sign up they'll get treatment Doctor_J Jun 2013 #66