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In reply to the discussion: Russ Feingold: Obama Super PAC Reversal Will Lead To 'A Legalized Abramoff System' [View all]The Doctor.
(17,266 posts)123. Fish Swim. Yet swimming doesn't make you a fish.
Nor does using a wingnut tactic make you a wingnut.
You've applied the wrong logical rule.
There is no 'draw'.
You're going to believe something you have no evidence for. You can't quote him or point to the part of the video where he states it's his idea. You choose to live with a fantasy, and there isn't much I can do to change that. So I figure we're done here.
What I am going to do, anytime I see you or anyone else state something that is not true about Obama or has no rational basis in reality on this site, is intervene and ask for something that demonstrates the validity of that assertion.
Then, after the GE begins in earnest, I don't have to hear bullshit reasons why people 'can't vote for Obama'.
Peace.
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Russ Feingold: Obama Super PAC Reversal Will Lead To 'A Legalized Abramoff System' [View all]
avaistheone1
Feb 2012
OP
I don't think they have backed off criticism of the super PACs, they have backed off losing
OKNancy
Feb 2012
#1
Back when special interest money started flooding into campaigns in the 90s, corrupting the entire
groovedaddy
Feb 2012
#24
Knowing that Lt. General DeWitt had misgivings about mass the internment of Japanese-Americans
OnyxCollie
Feb 2012
#67
"if a person really believes in a particular point, they don't compromise on it"
boppers
Feb 2012
#81
"is always wrong"...yeah...some things are "always wrong." However, I'm curious when...
FedUp_Queer
Feb 2012
#84
Not much imagination needed, as I once worked for an internet "tapping" company.
boppers
Feb 2012
#124
Okay, I'd really like to know how you came to the conclusion that indefinite detention was something
The Doctor.
Feb 2012
#86
I'm sorry. I looked and I wasn't able to find it. If you could please show me
The Doctor.
Feb 2012
#92
Since you're apparently not going to answer the question, I'll explain to the readers why.
The Doctor.
Feb 2012
#147
The NDAA codified what was already decided. By supreme law of the land (not the president).
boppers
Feb 2012
#97
I'd like to think so, but republicans aren't known for being reasonable.
Liberal Veteran
Feb 2012
#26
I love Russ and miss him dearly, but I think he's a bit naive on this subject...
Liberal_Stalwart71
Feb 2012
#6
How dare President Obama use the law created by the McCain-Feingold bill, complains Feingold! n/t
Ian David
Feb 2012
#20
When does it end? The same arguments were made when special interest money started flooding
groovedaddy
Feb 2012
#27
On the other side, if we don't win, it sets the stage for stacking the deck.
Liberal Veteran
Feb 2012
#34
"corrupt the system so thoroughly" - I think we're already there. I'm not sure that we have to
groovedaddy
Feb 2012
#45
Sorry, Russ, I see it as simply recognizing the law and the current playing field,
elleng
Feb 2012
#28
They're both right!!Russ is right that it will lead to a legalized Abramoff system & the President's
Douglas Carpenter
Feb 2012
#39
yeah, arm one group with guns and the other groups says "we'll use sticks"...ah..no Russ..nt
Demonaut
Feb 2012
#41
If the D super pacs can out-raise the R super pacs, the Rs will go running to the SCOTUS
stopbush
Feb 2012
#48
I can hope Super PACs will be just as bad, just as painful to the Republicans and they will also
RickFromMN
Feb 2012
#53
The President has to do what he has to do to survive until WE get strong enough to make
patrice
Feb 2012
#54
The only way to defeat SuperPacs is to show that they do not give the GOP an edge.
McCamy Taylor
Feb 2012
#60
As long as he pushes to eliminate the system in future elections, Obama is right.
Kablooie
Feb 2012
#77
The DLC is gone. Get the heck over it. You have to compete against the big Puke money. Get real.
RBInMaine
Feb 2012
#106
I love that Paul Wellstone quote..... He sure had his finger on the pulse of where this race to the
midnight
Feb 2012
#140
No it is SMART. Until we can reverse Citizens United, we need an even playing field. Feingold, you
RBInMaine
Feb 2012
#105
This would have been so much more effective from the Senate floor. Oh, right. nt
msanthrope
Feb 2012
#122