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Response to OnyxCollie (Reply #11)

Thu May 23, 2013, 04:41 PM

13. That's the point of repealing it.

And you left out the best part of that clip, which is the smack-down from Angus King that follows:

SEN. ANGUS KING: Gentlemen, Iíve only been here five months, but this is the most astounding and most astoundingly disturbing hearing that Iíve been to since Iíve been here. You guys have essentially rewritten the Constitution here today. The Constitution, Article I, Section 8, Clause 11, clearly says that the Congress has the power to declare war.

Thisóthis authorization, the AUMF, is very limited. And you keep using the term "associated forces." You use it 13 times in your statement. That is not in the AUMF. And you said at one point, "It suits us very well." I assume it does suit you very well, because youíre reading it to cover everything and anything.

And then you said, at another point, "So, even if the AUMF doesnít apply, the general law of war applies, and we can take these actions." So, my question is: How do you possibly square this with the requirement of the Constitution that the Congress has the power to declare war?


This is one of the most fundamental divisions in our constitutional scheme, that the Congress has the power to declare war; the president is the commander-in-chief and prosecutes the war. But youíre reading this AUMF in such a way as to apply clearly outside of what it says. . . .

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