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unionworks

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68. I live in a heavily Catholic town
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 01:53 AM
Feb 2012

(Erie PA) and can tell you first hand that the right wing of the Catholic Church is going positively apeshit right now. These nutbags have been on the local Topix board making veiled threats against former representative Kathy Dahlkemper. We have a liberal morning AM radio talk show host here, his conservative co-host read the anti-Obama letter in full on the air and the next day the liberal had his hours cut on air from 3 to one hour, while the conservative is still on for 3. I expect the liberal host to be gone soon, translate our nutcase Bishop Trautman using his business contacts to censor free speech, just as he tried to blackmail Mercyhurst College into not letting Hillary Clinton speak there in 2008. The dean ignored him and she spoke there anyway. The Bishop then boycotted this Catholic College's commencement. What a dried up, bitter old man.

Part of the nuttiness is because these dangerous extremists are beginning to realize that the gop is NOT taking back the White House this year, and may well lose most of their gains in 2010 due to voter remorse. Their anger is completely over the top. I can only hope the juustice department is keeping a close eye on the more violence prone segments of these loons.

This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #1
Children. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #70
How superior of you zipplewrath Feb 2012 #90
You think I'm commenting on the issue itself? The Doctor. Feb 2012 #117
You seem to believe you have a unique understanding of "reality" zipplewrath Feb 2012 #128
No, it's not 'nice'. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #129
Um, you made it about them zipplewrath Feb 2012 #130
Good observation! The Doctor. Feb 2012 #131
Translation: JoeyT Feb 2012 #95
Wow. I should no longer be surprised by this sort of response. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #113
Yes, and what a terrible stretch it was to make. JoeyT Feb 2012 #123
That post didn't say anything about women. boppers Feb 2012 #124
And if this were about same sex marriage, The Doctor. Feb 2012 #127
Anyone can be wrong sometimes. And sometimes one has to sound condescending when talking to idiots. 20score Feb 2012 #103
And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #111
Unfortunately for you we're a country of religious tolerance. vaberella Feb 2012 #80
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #94
this deserves it's own thread frylock Feb 2012 #107
This is the government! vaberella Feb 2012 #112
This has nothing to do with "religious tolerance", so plez dont play that card. rhett o rick Feb 2012 #108
Actually it has a whole lot to do with religious tolerance. vaberella Feb 2012 #110
I see it as special treatment. The "church" doesnt have to follow a law because of a "moral code" rhett o rick Feb 2012 #120
You know, I almost can't believe I'm saying this, but I just heard that many of the gateley Feb 2012 #2
Only a tiny sliver of Catholics give a damn about this. onehandle Feb 2012 #5
Yeah, so I'm surprised at the outcry. gateley Feb 2012 #10
Feh kenfrequed Feb 2012 #24
What hypocrisy! For those who are rich and are "against abortion" and truedelphi Feb 2012 #75
(heavily pushed by the RW echo chamber) . . . .n/t annabanana Feb 2012 #57
Compromising with a bunch of useless Church politicians. Scruffy1 Feb 2012 #37
I think this was made a big deal from the pulpits this past Sunday, gate; elleng Feb 2012 #7
Most Catholics I know would just blow that off. Of course, most Catholics I know don't gateley Feb 2012 #13
I don't believe it. Most Catholics blow off the nutbag priests/bishops on this issue. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #11
We always have. nt gateley Feb 2012 #15
Well, looky here Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #17
Haha! Love it!! nt gateley Feb 2012 #23
this is another media driven right wing attack lark Feb 2012 #20
I've no doubt Faux, et al, are the ones fanning the flames, but NOW I heard gateley Feb 2012 #25
I just read that a majority of Catholics support the contraception rule. Mojorabbit Feb 2012 #29
Well I wonder what brought this about, then. Politics, jeez -- crazy. nt gateley Feb 2012 #34
If there is enough lobbying they'd have too. vaberella Feb 2012 #83
That's only because so many Catholics have left the Church. truedelphi Feb 2012 #125
That is so bloody hypocritical of them - Smilo Feb 2012 #30
I know -- so I wonder who's causing the ruckus? I don't know why we don't automatically cast a gateley Feb 2012 #35
They're not, most of them use it Warpy Feb 2012 #33
Get rid of the Health Bill before it is too late. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #36
Is it better or worse than nothing? quakerboy Feb 2012 #49
Scrap it. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #55
So you believe Obamacare is worse than nothing at all. quakerboy Feb 2012 #71
I am sure. Scrap it. Then Scrap Medicaid and everything else except medicare for every citizen. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #73
That is not an option right now quakerboy Feb 2012 #74
Why not repeal it and expand Medicare? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #78
Because Republicans quakerboy Feb 2012 #79
The Left? CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #81
All 17 of them? quakerboy Feb 2012 #87
Pandering is never pragmatic Doctor_J Feb 2012 #47
Old Senator Bob Graham of Florida wanted Medicare for all. He was good one. CAPHAVOC Feb 2012 #77
You should've watched The Young Turks tonight. Lionessa Feb 2012 #50
Where did you hear that? ingac70 Feb 2012 #65
Actuallyyou're right. But there is a vocal minority that ruins our image. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #82
I have an easy solution. onehandle Feb 2012 #3
+ 1universal heath care NOW Vincardog Feb 2012 #4
I was just saying that yesterday. It bears repeating. Liberal Veteran Feb 2012 #8
+1 tanyev Feb 2012 #38
Catholic leadership needs to looks at the newest poll as does the Administration maddezmom Feb 2012 #6
Catholic 'leadership' not concerned about polls. elleng Feb 2012 #9
Let they count the number of children in the pews HockeyMom Feb 2012 #14
This is utter bullshit. I'm sick of religious freaks dictating policy. Arugula Latte Feb 2012 #12
Kathleen Sebelius: Contraception rule respects religion ProSense Feb 2012 #16
No more, actually, but corporate media is giving the vocal ones, BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #18
Then why is the admin backpedalling? Doctor_J Feb 2012 #48
No 'besides' about it peace frog Feb 2012 #51
They're not. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #66
Great and honest answer. truedelphi Feb 2012 #126
I'm frankly sick of politicians (of all stripes) ProfessionalLeftist Feb 2012 #19
Agree on that. nt TBF Feb 2012 #32
+1. Exactly. This is compromising women's health. yardwork Feb 2012 #45
How about semi-automatic assault weapons? JJW Feb 2012 #21
Popes have condemned the Iraq war and 'failings' of capitalism DaveJ Feb 2012 #26
I hope they wont. Mass Feb 2012 #22
The Catholic leadership needs to be sent a tax bill. Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #27
I totally agree. BlueCaliDem Feb 2012 #67
uhhh...is this caving to the Bible thumpers? SoapBox Feb 2012 #28
I don't understand the problem. Atypical Liberal Feb 2012 #31
President Obama, there is no need to capitulate on this..... tpsbmam Feb 2012 #39
Exactly, but though he's once again talking big, he's disappointing in his constant caving. Lionessa Feb 2012 #52
"Compromise" on making birthcontrol available is in same category as being "kinda pregnant"... Pachamama Feb 2012 #40
This infuriates me Tumbulu Feb 2012 #41
The only form of birth control they accept alphafemale Feb 2012 #132
Oh for fuck's sake...can we finally move out of the 16th century with this bullshit? Hugabear Feb 2012 #42
Oh by all means, address the concerns of the Catholic priests and bishops! MzNov Feb 2012 #43
Do you know how much people in this country fight for religious freedom? vaberella Feb 2012 #88
This isn't about respecting religion, no matter how much you insist it is. JoeyT Feb 2012 #97
Compromise PlanetBev Feb 2012 #44
Yank the churches tax-exempt status. Make the Catholic Church pay taxes. yardwork Feb 2012 #46
Amen, yardwork. Amen! truedelphi Feb 2012 #76
No fucking compromises. Fearless Feb 2012 #53
I bet the fundies... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2012 #54
No! Do not cave at all on this. If Catholics want to cough up the Billions of $$ AllyCat Feb 2012 #56
But there's the problem... The Doctor. Feb 2012 #119
Well here is what the humbled_opinion Feb 2012 #58
Exactly. But people are willing to shit on religious freedom here. vaberella Feb 2012 #86
yes, we need to be more tolerant of intolerance.. frylock Feb 2012 #96
Then run for President and ban religion. n/t vaberella Feb 2012 #116
fail frylock Feb 2012 #121
Ironic, isn't it Le Taz Hot Feb 2012 #89
*FACEPLAM* Odin2005 Feb 2012 #59
i have a problem with a religious state trying to dictate laws in this country... madrchsod Feb 2012 #60
I get unnerved by people who forget we are the US and not France. vaberella Feb 2012 #85
nobody is forcing catholics to use birth control (although 98% admit to using it).. frylock Feb 2012 #105
When my husband and I were going through marriage class AnnieBW Feb 2012 #61
Unless you are shoving the pills down a woman's throat, MsPithy Feb 2012 #62
So paid employees of a religious institution have fewer rights? krispos42 Feb 2012 #63
The headline is the NYTimes. elleng Feb 2012 #64
I live in a heavily Catholic town unionworks Feb 2012 #68
Tax the RCC! Dawson Leery Feb 2012 #69
Love to see it unionworks Feb 2012 #72
Catholic people are NOT the Catholic Church. vaberella Feb 2012 #84
Why belong to a church you have no say over? LAGC Feb 2012 #91
I ain't got a clue. I left the Church at 13. vaberella Feb 2012 #114
we're well aware of that. you're the one conflating the two.. frylock Feb 2012 #106
No. I don't think so. vaberella Feb 2012 #115
ummm i "pushed it onto you" because you're the only one pushing that argument.. frylock Feb 2012 #122
So, will they allow the cults that do not believe in medecine not to offer insurance at all? Or the Mass Feb 2012 #92
That's what I was thinking, too. Women are going to be pissed at the bishops. EFerrari Feb 2012 #93
No they wont get their republicon president, but one that yields to the bishops. nm rhett o rick Feb 2012 #99
Looks like it. n/t EFerrari Feb 2012 #100
I know it is 2012 Smilo Feb 2012 #98
in consideration of Catholics, there is one form of contraception the Catholics use MACARD Feb 2012 #101
How about this? No coverage for contraception, JDPriestly Feb 2012 #102
Ugh obamanut2012 Feb 2012 #104
I have a compromise idea Orangepeel Feb 2012 #109
Obama would compromise on the sun coming up in the morning. Vidar Feb 2012 #118
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