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In the discussion thread: White House May Look to Compromise on Contraception Decision. [View all]

Tue Feb 7, 2012, 03:37 PM

31. I don't understand the problem.

I don't understand the problem.

Lots of non-Catholics work for the Catholic church.

Surely the Catholics who work for them wouldn't be using the birth control anyway, right? Only the non-Catholics, so what's the big deal?

Of course the reality is that most Catholics do use birth control anwyay.

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132 replies	Author	Time	Post
White House May Look to Compromise on Contraception Decision. [View all]	elleng	Feb 2012	OP
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tesha	Feb 2012	#1
Children.	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#70
How superior of you	zipplewrath	Feb 2012	#90
You think I'm commenting on the issue itself?	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#117
You seem to believe you have a unique understanding of "reality"	zipplewrath	Feb 2012	#128
No, it's not 'nice'.	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#129
Um, you made it about them	zipplewrath	Feb 2012	#130
Good observation!	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#131
Translation:	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#95
Wow. I should no longer be surprised by this sort of response.	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#113
Yes, and what a terrible stretch it was to make.	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#123
That post didn't say anything about women.	boppers	Feb 2012	#124
And if this were about same sex marriage,	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#127
Anyone can be wrong sometimes. And sometimes one has to sound condescending when talking to idiots.	20score	Feb 2012	#103
And if wishes were horses we'd all be eating steak.	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#111
Unfortunately for you we're a country of religious tolerance.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#80
This message was self-deleted by its author	Tesha	Feb 2012	#94
this deserves it's own thread	frylock	Feb 2012	#107
This is the government!	vaberella	Feb 2012	#112
This has nothing to do with "religious tolerance", so plez dont play that card.	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#108
Actually it has a whole lot to do with religious tolerance.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#110
I see it as special treatment. The "church" doesnt have to follow a law because of a "moral code"	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#120
You know, I almost can't believe I'm saying this, but I just heard that many of the	gateley	Feb 2012	#2
Only a tiny sliver of Catholics give a damn about this.	onehandle	Feb 2012	#5
Yeah, so I'm surprised at the outcry.	gateley	Feb 2012	#10
Feh	kenfrequed	Feb 2012	#24
What hypocrisy! For those who are rich and are "against abortion" and	truedelphi	Feb 2012	#75
(heavily pushed by the RW echo chamber) . . . .n/t	annabanana	Feb 2012	#57
Compromising with a bunch of useless Church politicians.	Scruffy1	Feb 2012	#37
I think this was made a big deal from the pulpits this past Sunday, gate;	elleng	Feb 2012	#7
Most Catholics I know would just blow that off. Of course, most Catholics I know don't	gateley	Feb 2012	#13
I don't believe it. Most Catholics blow off the nutbag priests/bishops on this issue.	Arugula Latte	Feb 2012	#11
We always have. nt	gateley	Feb 2012	#15
Well, looky here	Arugula Latte	Feb 2012	#17
Haha! Love it!! nt	gateley	Feb 2012	#23
this is another media driven right wing attack	lark	Feb 2012	#20
I've no doubt Faux, et al, are the ones fanning the flames, but NOW I heard	gateley	Feb 2012	#25
I just read that a majority of Catholics support the contraception rule.	Mojorabbit	Feb 2012	#29
Well I wonder what brought this about, then. Politics, jeez -- crazy. nt	gateley	Feb 2012	#34
If there is enough lobbying they'd have too.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#83
That's only because so many Catholics have left the Church.	truedelphi	Feb 2012	#125
That is so bloody hypocritical of them -	Smilo	Feb 2012	#30
I know -- so I wonder who's causing the ruckus? I don't know why we don't automatically cast a	gateley	Feb 2012	#35
They're not, most of them use it	Warpy	Feb 2012	#33
Get rid of the Health Bill before it is too late.	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#36
Is it better or worse than nothing?	quakerboy	Feb 2012	#49
Scrap it.	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#55
So you believe Obamacare is worse than nothing at all.	quakerboy	Feb 2012	#71
I am sure. Scrap it. Then Scrap Medicaid and everything else except medicare for every citizen.	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#73
That is not an option right now	quakerboy	Feb 2012	#74
Why not repeal it and expand Medicare?	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#78
Because Republicans	quakerboy	Feb 2012	#79
The Left?	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#81
All 17 of them?	quakerboy	Feb 2012	#87
Pandering is never pragmatic	Doctor_J	Feb 2012	#47
Old Senator Bob Graham of Florida wanted Medicare for all. He was good one.	CAPHAVOC	Feb 2012	#77
You should've watched The Young Turks tonight.	Lionessa	Feb 2012	#50
Where did you hear that?	ingac70	Feb 2012	#65
Actuallyyou're right. But there is a vocal minority that ruins our image. n/t	vaberella	Feb 2012	#82
I have an easy solution.	onehandle	Feb 2012	#3
+ 1universal heath care NOW	Vincardog	Feb 2012	#4
I was just saying that yesterday. It bears repeating.	Liberal Veteran	Feb 2012	#8
+1	tanyev	Feb 2012	#38
Catholic leadership needs to looks at the newest poll as does the Administration	maddezmom	Feb 2012	#6
Catholic 'leadership' not concerned about polls.	elleng	Feb 2012	#9
Let they count the number of children in the pews	HockeyMom	Feb 2012	#14
This is utter bullshit. I'm sick of religious freaks dictating policy.	Arugula Latte	Feb 2012	#12
Kathleen Sebelius: Contraception rule respects religion	ProSense	Feb 2012	#16
No more, actually, but corporate media is giving the vocal ones,	BlueCaliDem	Feb 2012	#18
Then why is the admin backpedalling?	Doctor_J	Feb 2012	#48
No 'besides' about it	peace frog	Feb 2012	#51
They're not.	BlueCaliDem	Feb 2012	#66
Great and honest answer.	truedelphi	Feb 2012	#126
I'm frankly sick of politicians (of all stripes)	ProfessionalLeftist	Feb 2012	#19
Agree on that. nt	TBF	Feb 2012	#32
+1. Exactly. This is compromising women's health.	yardwork	Feb 2012	#45
How about semi-automatic assault weapons?	JJW	Feb 2012	#21
Popes have condemned the Iraq war and 'failings' of capitalism	DaveJ	Feb 2012	#26
I hope they wont.	Mass	Feb 2012	#22
The Catholic leadership needs to be sent a tax bill.	Dawson Leery	Feb 2012	#27
I totally agree.	BlueCaliDem	Feb 2012	#67
uhhh...is this caving to the Bible thumpers?	SoapBox	Feb 2012	#28
I don't understand the problem.	Atypical Liberal	Feb 2012	#31
President Obama, there is no need to capitulate on this.....	tpsbmam	Feb 2012	#39
Exactly, but though he's once again talking big, he's disappointing in his constant caving.	Lionessa	Feb 2012	#52
"Compromise" on making birthcontrol available is in same category as being "kinda pregnant"...	Pachamama	Feb 2012	#40
This infuriates me	Tumbulu	Feb 2012	#41
The only form of birth control they accept	alphafemale	Feb 2012	#132
Oh for fuck's sake...can we finally move out of the 16th century with this bullshit?	Hugabear	Feb 2012	#42
Oh by all means, address the concerns of the Catholic priests and bishops!	MzNov	Feb 2012	#43
Do you know how much people in this country fight for religious freedom?	vaberella	Feb 2012	#88
This isn't about respecting religion, no matter how much you insist it is.	JoeyT	Feb 2012	#97
Compromise	PlanetBev	Feb 2012	#44
Yank the churches tax-exempt status. Make the Catholic Church pay taxes.	yardwork	Feb 2012	#46
Amen, yardwork. Amen!	truedelphi	Feb 2012	#76
No fucking compromises.	Fearless	Feb 2012	#53
I bet the fundies...	awoke_in_2003	Feb 2012	#54
No! Do not cave at all on this. If Catholics want to cough up the Billions of $$	AllyCat	Feb 2012	#56
But there's the problem...	The Doctor.	Feb 2012	#119
Well here is what the	humbled_opinion	Feb 2012	#58
Exactly. But people are willing to shit on religious freedom here.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#86
yes, we need to be more tolerant of intolerance..	frylock	Feb 2012	#96
Then run for President and ban religion. n/t	vaberella	Feb 2012	#116
fail	frylock	Feb 2012	#121
Ironic, isn't it	Le Taz Hot	Feb 2012	#89
FACEPLAM	Odin2005	Feb 2012	#59
i have a problem with a religious state trying to dictate laws in this country...	madrchsod	Feb 2012	#60
I get unnerved by people who forget we are the US and not France.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#85
nobody is forcing catholics to use birth control (although 98% admit to using it)..	frylock	Feb 2012	#105
When my husband and I were going through marriage class	AnnieBW	Feb 2012	#61
Unless you are shoving the pills down a woman's throat,	MsPithy	Feb 2012	#62
So paid employees of a religious institution have fewer rights?	krispos42	Feb 2012	#63
The headline is the NYTimes.	elleng	Feb 2012	#64
I live in a heavily Catholic town	unionworks	Feb 2012	#68
Tax the RCC!	Dawson Leery	Feb 2012	#69
Love to see it	unionworks	Feb 2012	#72
Catholic people are NOT the Catholic Church.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#84
Why belong to a church you have no say over?	LAGC	Feb 2012	#91
I ain't got a clue. I left the Church at 13.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#114
we're well aware of that. you're the one conflating the two..	frylock	Feb 2012	#106
No. I don't think so.	vaberella	Feb 2012	#115
ummm i "pushed it onto you" because you're the only one pushing that argument..	frylock	Feb 2012	#122
So, will they allow the cults that do not believe in medecine not to offer insurance at all? Or the	Mass	Feb 2012	#92
That's what I was thinking, too. Women are going to be pissed at the bishops.	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#93
No they wont get their republicon president, but one that yields to the bishops. nm	rhett o rick	Feb 2012	#99
Looks like it. n/t	EFerrari	Feb 2012	#100
I know it is 2012	Smilo	Feb 2012	#98
in consideration of Catholics, there is one form of contraception the Catholics use	MACARD	Feb 2012	#101
How about this? No coverage for contraception,	JDPriestly	Feb 2012	#102
Ugh	obamanut2012	Feb 2012	#104
I have a compromise idea	Orangepeel	Feb 2012	#109
Obama would compromise on the sun coming up in the morning.	Vidar	Feb 2012	#118

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