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62. We don't know how he got the gun

Sun Apr 14, 2013, 12:22 AM

Apr 2013

If the bought the gun with the number already removed, then he broke the law, as did the person selling him the gun.

Of course, it is within the realm of possibility that he removed the serial numbers himself after buying it in compliance with California's laws. It would seem to be unlikely, but it is within the realm of possibility.

But please understand, this was not like ordering books.

I can't go onto Smith & Wesson's website and have a rifle or handgun delivered to my house after a few minutes of online shopping.

If the guy bought it online, that probably means he read an on-line classified ad. If the cops can get into his email, they can probably figure out who he was talking to. The person he bought it from should be arrested and imprisoned for his crimes.

FYI, California is one of the states with background checks required for all handgun transfers. It didn't work because he found a criminal that wanted to sell a gun.

Of course, assuming Warren's son kept his nose clean, he could have simply bought a gun legally.

Dunno. Maybe he was in a hurry to stop exercising his right to life and didn't want to wait 14 days for a legal gun.

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Rick Warren: Son Used Unregistered Gun in Suicide. [View all] elleng Apr 2013 OP

I smell an anti Obama conspiracy in the works. Mika Apr 2013 #1

Why? I think it's just tragic; buying guns off the internet is babylonsister Apr 2013 #3

Right. He's comin tuh git yer guns. Mika Apr 2013 #7

Yes, but an overwhelming majority babylonsister Apr 2013 #8

I agree w/you. Mika Apr 2013 #15

When most people think of Jenoch Apr 2013 #9

What? I buy stuff off the internet all the time, babylonsister Apr 2013 #11

I missed a word. Jenoch Apr 2013 #13

I didn't know that. So babylonsister Apr 2013 #26

So that did not happen with Holmes? This story says otherwise: freshwest Apr 2013 #28

He bought ammo and equipment online, not guns. Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #30

That M1 was not from "some guy on the internets" JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2013 #55

Perhaps you missed it, but a gun is not a helmet. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #44

The gun gets shipped to a Dealer who fills out the paperwork formercia Apr 2013 #16

Yep Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #20

About that background check... babylonsister Apr 2013 #27

Standard NICS checck Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #36

Every FFL Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #37

Because most people don't understand the laws already on the books. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #45

Every federal dealer is required to run the purchaser through the federal NICS system. krispos42 Apr 2013 #61

That transaction was already illegal, per multiple laws. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #42

Wouldn't it be MORE anti-Obama if he'd said it was a REGISTERED gun? n/t. Ken Burch Apr 2013 #10

Obviously, the removed serial # has Obama's hands all over it. Mika Apr 2013 #17

So he illegally purchased an illegal firearm. Just how many more laws would have prevented this? Leslie Valley Apr 2013 #2

Are you suggesting doing so is easy? elleng Apr 2013 #5

Who said the laws aren't being enforced? Renew Deal Apr 2013 #52

but how easy was it to do so booley Apr 2013 #58

Premeditated? CincyDem Apr 2013 #4

broke many existing laws Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #6

Restricting sales on the internet will prevent this, the ISPs can an do, shut things down. freshwest Apr 2013 #12

same as a newpaper classified Duckhunter935 Apr 2013 #22

You didn't address anything I said, you're defecting again. I won't play that game. Bye. freshwest Apr 2013 #23

I don't follow your reasoning freshwest. The trasnsfer was completely illegal under existing law. slackmaster Apr 2013 #25

I think its obvious that a guy selling a gun without a serial number doesn't care about the law Travis_0004 Apr 2013 #31

Those doing transactions online can be caught and prosecuted. Criminals are used to that. freshwest Apr 2013 #33

Then they will catch the guy who sold it to him. WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #59

FWIW naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #38

I don't think you understand. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #46

We don't know how he got the gun krispos42 Apr 2013 #62

The NRA is blocking a ban on internet sales. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #19

He won't answer, see my replles and his above. n/t freshwest Apr 2013 #24

I think the story is bullshit naaman fletcher Apr 2013 #39

It's too easy to circumvent the law via internet sales; the ATF doesn't have enough resources. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #40

Internet sales are a whole lot easier to track than face-to-face transactions at random locations slackmaster Apr 2013 #41

It is hard to find buyers for those kind of sales without internet ads. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #43

Except of course the USDoJ already measures this and the internet is not a major source AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #47

Then why do the gun mfrs have their panties in a bunch over the thought of banning internet sales? SunSeeker Apr 2013 #49

Because the sales you are referring to take place not between private parties, but between dealers, AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #50

Holmes built his arsenal of bullets, ballistic gear through an unregulated online market. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #51

I agree on the ATF. I wish to increase their budget and confirm director, etc. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #53

So now you want to ban internet sales of WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #60

So someone should be able to buy 10,000 bullets over the internet no questions asked? nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #63

Was that what I asked? WinniSkipper Apr 2013 #64

I wonder how drug dealers manage to make sales without posting ads on the Internet slackmaster Apr 2013 #56

It's not easy. They get busted all the time; look at our jails. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #57

More gunz will solve this right? DainBramaged Apr 2013 #29

I hope they are able to trace the seller and prosecute to the full extent of the law. bluedigger Apr 2013 #14

When we break the GOP - NRA stranglehold on nominations: freshwest Apr 2013 #32

Thanks for posting this! bluedigger Apr 2013 #34

It'll make no difference there. This has turned into a Gungeon free for all. Bye. freshwest Apr 2013 #35

A new director would be a good thing. AtheistCrusader Apr 2013 #48

Maybe now we can stop this shit? jpak Apr 2013 #18

If only he'd had a dozen more unregistered guns, this never would have happened, because valerief Apr 2013 #21

I think we can ALL agree that Rick Warren's a weirdo lanlady Apr 2013 #54