Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Catherina

(35,568 posts)
50. Such shoddy reporting. Maduro specifically said former Bush people
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 11:21 AM
Mar 2013

I don't think there's any low too low for that bunch of oil thieves when it comes to getting their hands on the largest proved oil reserves in the world.



The mastermind he specifically mentioned was Otto Reich. "firm and continuing policy" "efforts in this regard will continue vigorously beyond this date", "implemented clandestinely and securely so that the USG and American hand be well hidden" apply to the government of Venezuela also. The week Chavez died, the Venezuelans caught 2 US attaches trying to get Venezuelan military personnel to commit treason against their countrymen. The military attaches were expelled from the country. And the US, in a vindictive tit-for-tat move, expelled 2 diplomats. The evidence wasn't released but I don't think Maduro is talking out of his ass.

Before the coup against President Allende of Chile, Allende too accused the US of assassinating his conservative opponent, former Chilean Cabinet Minister, Edmundo Pérez Zujovic. Perez's assassination by the anarchist group, "Vanguardia Organizada del Pueblo", was used as a justification for the 1973 Coup d'état.

Rinse, lather, repeat. Oh but we would never!

"It is firm and continuing policy that Allende be overthrown by a coup. It would be much preferable to have this transpire prior to 24 October but efforts in this regard will continue vigorously beyond this date. We are to continue to generate maximum pressure toward this end, utilizing every appropriate resource. It is imperative that these actions be implemented clandestinely and securely so that the USG and American hand be well hidden..." — Henry Kissinger in a communique to the CIA base in Chile, 16 oktober, 1970.


I don't see why we need to stand by and watch a country go communist due to the irresponsibility of its own people. The issues are much too important for the Chilean voters to be left to decide for themselves."
Henry Kissinger


Sun Feb-20-11

Just to be VERY CLEAR, for those who don't know this history or don't have time to read the whole article--the U.S./Nixon administration was thickly involved in the events in Chile in the 1970s, whereby Chilean voters were overthrown--not just the government--but the sovereign people of Chile and their right to have a government of their choice, was overthrown. DEMOCRACY was overthrown. On the fear--on the FEAR, not the reality, the FEAR--that a socialist government MIGHT ally with the Soviet Union--the U.S. supported, aided and abetted this horribly violent coup d'etat and the horrors afterwards--the tortures and murders of thousands of people for their political views.

This U.S. policy in Latin America has hardly changed in forty years. Thousands of trade unionists, human rights workers, teachers, community activists, peasant farmers and others have been slaughtered by the Colombian military (with $7 BILLION in U.S. military aid) and by its rightwing paramilitary death squads, with the Bush Junta tool in Colombia, Alvaro Uribe, stating publicly that everyone who opposed him is a "terrorist," while he himself is filthy dirty with ties to the death squads and the trillion dollar cocaine trade. This criminal is now under the protection of the CIA and the Obama administration, which have arranged for the removal of witnesses against Uribe from Colombia, out of the reach of Colombian prosecutors and over their objections. They furthermore have set him up with cushy academic sinecures at Georgetown and Harvard and appointment to a prestigious international legal commission.

And now the same thing is starting in Honduras, where the U.S.-backed, fascist coup government--with only the thinnest smear of democracy cosmetics provided by Hillary Clinton--is ignoring the murders of numerous anti-coup organizers and the rapes, beatings and tortures of others. While the military and the death squads decapitate the leftist leadership in these countries, in preparation for U.S. "free trade for the rich," the corrupt, murderous, failed U.S. "war on drugs" is additionally used to militarize and brutalize society--under way now, in Mexico, with new ops in Honduras as well. This latter--the "war on drugs"--is likely also being used to consolidate the cocaine trade under Bush Cartel/CIA control (i.e., smashing independent operations and protecting those who are "players&quot . This trillion dollar-plus revenue stream provides massive illicit funds for god-knows-who and god-knows-what, as well as providing liquidity to the banksters. But one thing that the U.S. "war on drugs" does NOT do, and NEVER WILL do, is stop the cocaine trade.

Nixon started the U.S. "war on drugs" while his regime was destroying Chilean democracy and the two things are very related. The U.S. "war on drugs" provided the method of continued control of Latin American countries, with vast corruption, brutalization and direct U.S. funding of the fascists and the militarists. It also provided a substitute "war" for our war profiteers, since Nixon-Kissinger were being forced to wind down the war on Vietnam, because, a) the people of the U.S. were rebelling against it, and b) the Vietnamese--those 'little brown people' in straw hats and sandals, who were fighting for their independence--were winning against the biggest war machine on earth. (Their democracy had also been destroyed when the U.S. forbade a UN-sponsored election in 1954--an election that independence hero Ho Chi Minh would have won.)

The use of the U.S. "war on drugs" to destroy democracy in Latin America continues to this day and has never been more intense. In September 2008, when the U.S. embassy was funding/organizing a white separatist insurrection in Bolivia, Bolivia's president, Evo Morales, not only threw the U.S. ambassador out of the country, he threw the DEA out of Bolivia, because they, too, were colluding with the white separatists. After defeating the insurrection, with the unanimous backing of South American countries, via UNASUR (an EU-type regional institution that had been formalized only that very summer), Bolivia then proceeded with its vote on Bolivia's new constitution (overwhelmingly popular, written by the people) which legalizes and protects the coca leaf (not cocaine) as a sacred Indigenous medicine. After Venezuela, Bolivia is the no. 1 target of the U.S. for this reason. It has rebelled against the U.S. "war on drugs"--the prime U.S. method of control--by opting for a SANE drug policy and legalizing the coca leaf (somewhat comparable to legaling marijuana here--another harmless and beneficial herb). This legalization calls into question the entire brutal edifice of control that has been operating since Nixon, and that the Obama administration fully supports--a policy that is costing us, all told, probably a trillion dollars--to war profiteers, Pentagon bases in Latin America, the "prison-industrial complex," our own police state and related corruption (for instance, pesticides to spray on food farms in Latin America, to drive the peasants off their land--land then goes to the preferred drug lords, Monsanto, etc.)

Let me just tell you what one of the Honduran coup generals said about their recent coup (June 2009)--a coup that the Obama administration abetted and secured. He said that their coup was intended "to prevent communism from Venezuela reaching the United States" (quoted in a report on the coup by the Zelaya government-in-exile).

Nothing has changed. Policies that benefit the poor, and democratic processes that enable the vast poor majority to elect governments that act in their interest, are STILL considered "communist" is some circles, and those who truly rule the U.S.--transglobal corporations and war profiteers--are STILL determined to exterminate those policies and those democratic processes and the leaders who represent them. The U.S. "war on drugs" is the chief means being used to that end, supplemented by multi-millions of our tax dollars being funneled to rightwing groups throughout Latin America, through agencies like the USAID and entities like the Pentagon, on top of unknown amounts of covert money, some of it directly out of our pockets and some from illicit revenue streams.

And the cocaine just keeps on flowing.

...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x589240


The above excellent post was written by DU user Peace Patriot, since this is already on DU's servers in full, I took the liberty of quoting more than 4 paragraphs
Maduro is less sane than Chavez....wonderful. nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #1
Chavez was a decent man with bad gov. management. joshcryer Mar 2013 #20
I Lived In Venezuela for the Last Six Years, Maduro is an Intelligent, Decent, Man. Justina For Justice Mar 2013 #32
Great article, Justina! You point out so many things that... Peace Patriot Mar 2013 #36
We knew the U.S. corporate media knew Chavez' life was going to end soon when on one hand, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #38
Great article. Thanks for posting. CanSocDem Mar 2013 #44
oh yes, whip up that bogeyman the US ROFL BuddhaGirl Mar 2013 #2
. Jamaal510 Mar 2013 #3
Unless he has proof, premium Mar 2013 #4
"Everything goes according to plan." DetlefK Mar 2013 #5
It's Maduro who is plotting to have his opponent killed. Archae Mar 2013 #6
Yep. Just pre-emptive strike so when COLGATE4 Mar 2013 #9
So, one conspiracy is true, the other isn't? SamReynolds Mar 2013 #11
good question. Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #13
Well, we know they tried to kill Capriles once. joshcryer Mar 2013 #18
Is that sarcasm or hyperbole.... or both? SamReynolds Mar 2013 #27
Obama ordered the killing of Anwar al-Aulaqi. joshcryer Mar 2013 #29
Thank you. I know it was a lot of questions. One thing I don't understand... SamReynolds Mar 2013 #37
That's easy enough. joshcryer Mar 2013 #39
Capriles already survived one assassination attempt. joshcryer Mar 2013 #17
I will let Hugo's memory RIP UnseenUndergrad Mar 2013 #7
So much for better relations with the US jzodda Mar 2013 #8
Maduro may be lying.... Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #10
You think the Obama administration is trying to kill Capriles? nt msanthrope Mar 2013 #30
I dont know... Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #31
Thanks for Taking a Sane Position, U.S. Media on Chavez and Maduro Has Been Despicable. Justina For Justice Mar 2013 #33
The "...majority of their people have applauded and respected Chavez..."? Zorro Mar 2013 #42
Your blind faith in Maduro is touching, but geek tragedy Mar 2013 #43
Excellant Article on Daily Kos, Justina! Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #45
The Venezuelan Sarah Palin. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #12
Why do you say that? Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #14
Because he's an unstable flunky who lives on making inflammatory geek tragedy Mar 2013 #15
Are you saying that the USA/CIA would never do such a thing as he suggests? Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #25
He makes stuff up. If he has evidence, good for him. geek tragedy Mar 2013 #28
Maduro is not all there to begin with. Here's a little more about him for the uniformed. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #16
He's also a homophobic bigot. joshcryer Mar 2013 #19
If one actually reads to the end of the linked article, one reads more good PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #21
Meddled? Your are too gracious, PufPuf23. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #23
On discussion forums? I think Maduro is fair game. joshcryer Mar 2013 #35
To be more specific for the 21st century PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #48
I'd love to know the journalism school which taught the Reuters writer Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #47
What one reads in the USA media about Latin America makes me grit my teeth. PufPuf23 Mar 2013 #49
Read the link..... Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #22
Sai Baba? Not Marx, but Sai Baba. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #24
Even if it is true Proletariatprincess Mar 2013 #26
It matters to me. David Zephyr Mar 2013 #34
Post removed Post removed Mar 2013 #40
The former bus driver is trying to cause a fake scandal to boost his chances at the polls. Beacool Mar 2013 #41
Sai Baba,eh? Good enough for fellow thinker Goldie HAWN. Hmm, wonder how/what Nicky boy "donated" UTUSN Mar 2013 #46
Such shoddy reporting. Maduro specifically said former Bush people Catherina Mar 2013 #50
"The evidence wasn't released but I don't think Maduro is talking out of his ass. " geek tragedy Mar 2013 #51
The 2 US attaches that were expelled from Venezuela were "former Bush people", hughee99 Mar 2013 #52
What trial? They quietly returned to the US. The US isn't going to try them Catherina Mar 2013 #53
If the 2 attaches were meeting with the Venezuelan military to get them to commit treason hughee99 Mar 2013 #54
Well.... I don't give Obama a pass Catherina Mar 2013 #55
The poisonous former Reagan propaganda chief, Otto Reich, Judi Lynn Mar 2013 #56
Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»Venezuela's Maduro urges ...»Reply #50