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hack89

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29. Impossible to say with certainty

Thu Feb 28, 2013, 11:07 PM

Feb 2013

most defensive gun uses don't actually involve killing anyone.

But then you are lumping legal gun owners in with criminals, aren't you? You don't distinguish between the two, do you? Because we do know that in those states that liberalized their gun laws and allowed concealed carry, there was not a jump in gun deaths. Considering that America is experiencing historic lows in gun violence, having halved our murder rate in 20 years, I think you are overstating the recklessness. There are some stupid people with guns but they are not the norm.

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Federal Appeals Court: There Is No Second Amendment Right To A Concealed Firearm [View all] kpete Feb 2013 OP

is sense starting to prevail? samsingh Feb 2013 #1

Big deal derby378 Feb 2013 #2

Be careful what you wish for, in Ohio..... peace13 Feb 2013 #3

If our public places belong to all of us, what about my right to choose whether I want to be around patrice Feb 2013 #11

This decision is in conflict with the Seventh circuit which ruled just the opposite. former9thward Feb 2013 #4

Illinois residents: Now press Lisa Madigan to appeal to Supreme Court frazzled Feb 2013 #5

I think Illinois will be asked to take one for the gun control team. hack89 Feb 2013 #10

The ruling would be narrow, on the merits of the 7th Circuit decision frazzled Feb 2013 #12

As a matter of principle hack89 Feb 2013 #18

As a matter of principle, I should hope not frazzled Feb 2013 #19

Because we know that cops are the greatest protectors of civil rights hack89 Feb 2013 #20

Trust 'em more than crazy people frazzled Feb 2013 #21

The crazies and the criminals don't bother with concealed carry permits hack89 Feb 2013 #22

Here's what "shall issue" gets you. Heywood J Feb 2013 #25

So tell me hack89 Feb 2013 #26

It depends. Heywood J Feb 2013 #28

Impossible to say with certainty hack89 Feb 2013 #29

No, actually, I don't. Heywood J Mar 2013 #31

Considering how gun violence has been steadily decreasing for 20 years hack89 Mar 2013 #32

"Seem to indicate"? Heywood J Mar 2013 #33

The FBI and the CDC collect statistics on gun violence hack89 Mar 2013 #34

another NRA parrot sigmasix Feb 2013 #27

WELL REGULATED. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #6

Bran Muffins? Remmah2 Feb 2013 #13

at least it gave me a starting point to argue from PatrynXX Feb 2013 #7

While another federal appeals court told Illinois that a concealed carry ban was unconstitutional hack89 Feb 2013 #8

THINK about how CC affects small businesses in our cities! & Youth culture everywhere. nt patrice Feb 2013 #9

I'm sure the career violent criminals who carry illegally are disappointed in this ruling slackmaster Feb 2013 #14

So much for the idea that your "castle" is wherever you happen to be standing Major Nikon Feb 2013 #15

The ruling doesn't preclude states from defining the boundaries of a person's castle as broadly... slackmaster Feb 2013 #16

I don't know that they were precluded before Major Nikon Feb 2013 #17

Kick and Rec for gun fetishists Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #23

It's a shame the Congress has considered it a constitutional right to pack an open AR-15-type weapon indepat Feb 2013 #24

The "right"* to strut through Wal Mart with a pistol perched in their pants has always been a apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #30

Why do you oppose the President and the party platform? hack89 Mar 2013 #35

So "hack89" now supports reinstating the AWB and requiring a gun safety test to buy a gun! Great! apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #36

I could support an AWB I guess - it would have no impact on me hack89 Mar 2013 #37

Why do you oppose the President and the party platform? apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #38

Because he is misguided. Yourself? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #39