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In the discussion thread: Armed shopper shoots at Walmart shoplifter, police say [View all]

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 11:27 PM

10. I don't know what else to do but shudder at the thought of this idiot,

standing in the parking lot, shooting repeatedly at a guy stealing walmart crap! Talk about delusional! 99.9% chance he feels like he's the protector of the people with his gun, and felt he was supposed to do this so he could be on the news!

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when asked, as they put him in the back of the cruiser, if he thought he'd get arrested, he said "NO!" Again, he thinks he's an honorary part of the police force because he's got a permit to carry (from what I believe I heard). Talk about delusional.

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167 replies	Author	Time	Post
Armed shopper shoots at Walmart shoplifter, police say [View all]	Divine Discontent	Feb 27	OP
Hey, it takes a good guy with a gun to stop a bad guy with...	Aristus	Feb 27	#1
I don't know what else to do but shudder at the thought of this idiot,	Divine Discontent	Feb 27	#10
I have to wonder if the value of the stolen merchandise	Gore1FL	Feb 28	#31
and the ambulance, investigation, trial, et al	grahamhgreen	Feb 28	#35
On the plus side, his aim appears to be better than...	TheMadMonk	Feb 28	#71
Stay out of stores	cartach	Feb 28	#74
theft = death	iamthebandfanman	Feb 28	#50
How the hell ya gonna know if the intruder is armed?	Jackpine Radical	Feb 28	#95
theft=death unless you're a banker, then theft=big bonus. nt	valerief	Feb 28	#105
Bad comparison. A person breaking into your home may very possibly do you harm.	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 28	#154
may n/t	iamthebandfanman	Mar 2	#167
He also knocked a woman to the ground	Ter	Feb 28	#99
He knocked down a Wal Mart worker	marshall	Feb 28	#108
seems not many readers made it to page 2	Paul E Ester	Feb 28	#111
Gee Thanks Paul	HangOnKids	Feb 28	#141
You know, I have a personal policy myself	Scairp	Mar 1	#163
a crime punishable by death..	frylock	Feb 28	#116
and he should be charged for Assault for that	JI7	Feb 28	#146
Another example	Jacoby365	Feb 27	#2
Except the "bad guy" was unarmed	jpak	Feb 28	#97
If Jose's bullets had hit a bystander and killed him/her, would that be manslaughter or murder? nt	Selatius	Feb 27	#3
Neither	1983law	Feb 27	#7
a TAD? shooting isn't a TAD much it is the ultimate much!	upaloopa	Feb 27	#16
understatement for irony? nt	Deep13	Feb 28	#28
I agree.	1983law	Feb 28	#41
It gets easier	Capt. Obvious	Feb 28	#124
You win the internets today...	1983law	Feb 28	#133
thank you! I was wondering the same after I posted this. What if someone was right behind that car	Divine Discontent	Feb 27	#9
Answer: He wasn't thinking	CanonRay	Feb 28	#84
If he had hit the shoplifter, that would be murder.	jeff47	Feb 27	#21
right nt	Deep13	Feb 28	#27
Read page two of the article.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#62
Doesn't matter.	jeff47	Feb 28	#65
This is entirely hypothetical	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#66
Except there's no reporting of a chase by either Buongiorno	jeff47	Feb 28	#67
I think the report is pretty suspect.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#69
using the cop excuse.	CBGLuthier	Feb 28	#87
Entirely possible.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#112
imagine that. putting a car in reverse to back out of a parking slot..	frylock	Feb 28	#117
They would have a legal right to do that.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#121
"It's legal to do when you witness a crime in progress."	Capt. Obvious	Feb 28	#125
Tonnage has right of way, as they say.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#126
my instinct for self preservation far exceeds my will to protect walmart's profit margin	frylock	Feb 28	#130
Bullseye. (nt)	Paladin	Feb 28	#134
Well, that's you.	Democracyinkind	Feb 28	#156
2nd degree murder.	Deep13	Feb 28	#26
"Intent follows bullet"	AnotherWyoDemocrat	Feb 28	#32
How many years did he get?	davidpdx	Feb 28	#88
Life	AnotherWyoDemocrat	Feb 28	#100
They didn't. Your question is moot.	slackmaster	Feb 28	#39
it's like it never happened..	frylock	Feb 28	#131
By your logic, there isn't such a thing as "attempted murder."	2ndAmForComputers	Feb 28	#155
And if the bystander was armed, would s/he have the legal right	tblue	Feb 28	#51
In Florida, it's probably 'stand your ground'!	sinkingfeeling	Feb 28	#96
If the bad guys don't get you, the vigilantes will.	bluedigger	Feb 27	#4
Because the vigilantes are just as bad as the bad guys. nt	valerief	Feb 28	#106
Utter chaos. Where is the justice system in all of this?	Loudly	Feb 27	#5
The 'starve the beast' crowd demands this. They say it openly, no money for cops, just DYI.	freshwest	Feb 28	#30
+1	graham4anything	Feb 28	#77
Do these" heros" have the training re: firing a gun in public areas the way police are educated?	lunasun	Feb 27	#6
good question. obviously, not all of them do, fortunately, this guys bullets seemed to have not hit	Divine Discontent	Feb 27	#13
Ricochet	lunasun	Feb 27	#17
Actually, he didn't need to hit a bystander. Hitting the shoplifter would have been plenty	jeff47	Feb 27	#23
If he did, it didn't take. ...	Deep13	Feb 28	#25
I swear there are people walking around just itching to shoot	tblue	Feb 28	#52
Seems like it.	Deep13	Feb 28	#57
I saw that they have a simulator open to citizens in NY	Mnpaul	Feb 28	#33
Not in Texas?	rdharma	Feb 27	#8
In Florida it's mandatory.	IveWornAHundredPants	Feb 27	#11
Mandatory in Florida	rdharma	Feb 27	#14
No. No place in the USA allows lethal force to defend mere property. nt	Deep13	Feb 28	#24
No place in the USA allows lethal force to defend mere property	rdharma	Feb 28	#44
All right, apparently I have not learned my lesson...	Deep13	Feb 28	#60
Wrong again.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#70
It's a little confusing.	cynzke	Feb 28	#120
Correct.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#122
Do you have 9.41 handy? nt	Deep13	Feb 28	#150
Sure.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#151
That is just so unbelievable!	avebury	Feb 28	#81
I don't like what Horn did, but there is an additonal piece of info missing from that account.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#114
They were coming toward him and he shot them in the back...	JoeBlowToo	Feb 28	#138
The additional information means squat.	avebury	Feb 28	#148
I would not want to live next to him either.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#149
What is really sad is that what Horn learned	avebury	Feb 28	#152
Horn Became An Immediate Hero Of The Gun Militancy Movement.	Paladin	Feb 28	#135
Did you hear the dispatcher recording?	rdharma	Feb 28	#145
"I'm gonna shoot! I'm gonna shoot!"	Paladin	Feb 28	#147
K&R	DeSwiss	Feb 27	#12
even my ROE in iraq dictated proportionate response	pasto76	Feb 27	#15
good point -proportionate response not	lunasun	Feb 27	#19
Sounds like an uncomplicated attempted murder charge, pled down to assualt with a deadly weapon	cthulu2016	Feb 27	#18
And following that felony conviction, never let that guy own a firearm again.	BlueStreak	Feb 28	#43
The benefits of concealed carry	BainsBane	Feb 27	#20
Kind of a short trip	primavera	Feb 28	#54
Remember the good old days, where we just whacked off their hands?	Fuddnik	Feb 28	#72
Fleeing. Where was the mortal threat again? nt	Deep13	Feb 27	#22
So much for training.	SCVDem	Feb 28	#29
Judge, jury, jesus, police wannabe, executioner, supposedly responsible/law-abiding gun toter.	Hoyt	Feb 28	#34
Neighborhood watch! nt	SCVDem	Feb 28	#45
The shooter needs to face felony charges	Bjorn Against	Feb 28	#36
The old west is over, gun nuts. And your 'golden age' is ending. nt	onehandle	Feb 28	#37
Law 8,...there is only one penalty,...death.	Spitfire of ATJ	Feb 28	#38
If we could confine all the gun idiots in the world to Wal*Marts	BlueStreak	Feb 28	#40
Juat another "law-abiding gun owner"....right up the moment he wasn't.	Ikonoklast	Feb 28	#42
A legally obtained gun doesn't make someone a "good guy."	Beartracks	Feb 28	#46
Is there room in this thread	1983law	Feb 28	#47
Vgilantism is so cool	SansACause	Feb 28	#53
Did you watch the video?	1983law	Feb 28	#68
Did you read the article?	Fumesucker	Feb 28	#76
so arrest the fucker , doesn't walmart have cameras , security etc ?	JI7	Feb 28	#56
Sure,criticize him all you want just don't pretend his actions justify opening fire in a parking lot	Bjorn Against	Feb 28	#59
No.	Iggo	Feb 28	#107
no, we're all obviously pro-shoplifting..	frylock	Feb 28	#129
Per the article	catchnrelease	Feb 28	#48
Good...the shooter is a dangerous idiot who should be taken off the streets before he kills somebody	alcibiades_mystery	Feb 28	#94
Was the shoplifter wearing a hoodie?	SansACause	Feb 28	#49
fucking idiot, he should be banned from ever having another gun	JI7	Feb 28	#55
I hope that is possible in Florida...eom	Kolesar	Feb 28	#79
He should be imprisoned for life. He's a danger to the community. nt	valerief	Feb 28	#103
this guy is a moron	bossy22	Feb 28	#58
Oh, for fuck's sake...	awoke_in_2003	Feb 28	#61
I see no one read page 2 of the article.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#63
So, every time you back out of a parking space, it'a attempted murder?	jpak	Feb 28	#98
If one of the people involved in this altercation was standing there	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#113
Yes and alleged shoplifter being chased by strangers backed a car out while escaping them	jpak	Feb 28	#140
Some posters never change...	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#142
Translation: "this being on the losing side of an argument really bites." Gotcha. n/t.	apocalypsehow	Feb 28	#160
JPak's tire equivocation between self defense and the 'death penalty' is certainly a winning argumen	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#162
I'm ok with charging the perp..	sendero	Mar 1	#165
Yeah, more details are coming out.	AtheistCrusader	Mar 1	#166
"That's attempted murder."	frylock	Feb 28	#132
Yeah, I saw the second article this morning.	AtheistCrusader	Feb 28	#136
The woman the robber knocked down is actually grateful that Martinez shot at the thief	Common Sense Party	Feb 28	#64
You never have a reason to shoot at someone unless you're trapped and can't get away...	Sancho	Feb 28	#82
Deadly force can be used	SCVDem	Feb 28	#91
This place is out of control...	Sancho	Feb 28	#73
Martinez told authorities he was trying to mark McKee's car.........	Historic NY	Feb 28	#75
oh yeh, i do that all the time. so much easier than memorizing a license plate.	frylock	Feb 28	#137
Yup. Most of us would just write the license plate number down	riderinthestorm	Feb 28	#161
Regarding the shooting in Largo	classykaren	Feb 28	#78
Loss prevention employees?	sulphurdunn	Feb 28	#80
Loss Prevention	SCVDem	Feb 28	#101
Who knows. . .?	another_liberal	Feb 28	#83
Walking home with a soda can get you killed here!	Sancho	Feb 28	#92
Good for you!	another_liberal	Feb 28	#115
Yes.	sulphurdunn	Feb 28	#128
a lot happened in a short time, started with the woman knocked down and loud screams	Sunlei	Feb 28	#85
If WalMart doesn't care about preventing shoplifting and harm to customers	Blandocyte	Feb 28	#86
I think the off duty police officer had every right to help however he could within reason	davidpdx	Feb 28	#89
"Ahm gunna be a HEERO!!"	hatrack	Feb 28	#90
Hahaaaahaaaaaa! Yep: that sums it up perfectly.	apocalypsehow	Feb 28	#159
Another moron with a gun. nt	Javaman	Feb 28	#93
But the worst thing in the world is stealing from Wal-Mart. It deserves death, right?	valerief	Feb 28	#102
Goodguyswithguns.	Iggo	Feb 28	#104
just get the license plate number	ThomThom	Feb 28	#109
Why are you protect WalMart?	SCVDem	Feb 28	#110
Well I bet Martinez	Smilo	Feb 28	#118
The woman who was knocked down said she thought she's been shot -	hedgehog	Feb 28	#119
Was anyone in imminent danger of bodily harm?	AngryOldDem	Feb 28	#123
When shooting up the back of the car....	cynzke	Feb 28	#127
that would be the fault of the children for placing themselves in proximity..	frylock	Feb 28	#139
Lucky no other customers were in the line of fire.	hamsterjill	Feb 28	#143
A gun is like an escalator.	sofa king	Feb 28	#144
I didn't know that shoplifting was a death penalty offense	Scairp	Feb 28	#153
Who in the hell wants to protect walmart!!??	and-justice-for-all	Feb 28	#157
some gun-toters regard Walmart as American as apple pie and adore it.	Divine Discontent	Mar 1	#164
"Investigators said Martinez was charged with two felonies" - Good, I hope they throw the book at	apocalypsehow	Feb 28	#158

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