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hack89

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18. As a matter of principle

Wed Feb 27, 2013, 03:11 PM

Feb 2013

one would hope that Illinois writes a "shall issue" law. The idea that government officials have carte blanc to deny constitutional rights at their own discretion should be anathema to any progressive. They should set up a strict set of standards for concealed carry and allow anyone that meets those standards to get a permit.

But when it comes to guns many feel perfectly comfortable giving police all the power they can.

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Federal Appeals Court: There Is No Second Amendment Right To A Concealed Firearm [View all] kpete Feb 2013 OP

is sense starting to prevail? samsingh Feb 2013 #1

Big deal derby378 Feb 2013 #2

Be careful what you wish for, in Ohio..... peace13 Feb 2013 #3

If our public places belong to all of us, what about my right to choose whether I want to be around patrice Feb 2013 #11

This decision is in conflict with the Seventh circuit which ruled just the opposite. former9thward Feb 2013 #4

Illinois residents: Now press Lisa Madigan to appeal to Supreme Court frazzled Feb 2013 #5

I think Illinois will be asked to take one for the gun control team. hack89 Feb 2013 #10

The ruling would be narrow, on the merits of the 7th Circuit decision frazzled Feb 2013 #12

As a matter of principle hack89 Feb 2013 #18

As a matter of principle, I should hope not frazzled Feb 2013 #19

Because we know that cops are the greatest protectors of civil rights hack89 Feb 2013 #20

Trust 'em more than crazy people frazzled Feb 2013 #21

The crazies and the criminals don't bother with concealed carry permits hack89 Feb 2013 #22

Here's what "shall issue" gets you. Heywood J Feb 2013 #25

So tell me hack89 Feb 2013 #26

It depends. Heywood J Feb 2013 #28

Impossible to say with certainty hack89 Feb 2013 #29

No, actually, I don't. Heywood J Mar 2013 #31

Considering how gun violence has been steadily decreasing for 20 years hack89 Mar 2013 #32

"Seem to indicate"? Heywood J Mar 2013 #33

The FBI and the CDC collect statistics on gun violence hack89 Mar 2013 #34

another NRA parrot sigmasix Feb 2013 #27

WELL REGULATED. nt onehandle Feb 2013 #6

Bran Muffins? Remmah2 Feb 2013 #13

at least it gave me a starting point to argue from PatrynXX Feb 2013 #7

While another federal appeals court told Illinois that a concealed carry ban was unconstitutional hack89 Feb 2013 #8

THINK about how CC affects small businesses in our cities! & Youth culture everywhere. nt patrice Feb 2013 #9

I'm sure the career violent criminals who carry illegally are disappointed in this ruling slackmaster Feb 2013 #14

So much for the idea that your "castle" is wherever you happen to be standing Major Nikon Feb 2013 #15

The ruling doesn't preclude states from defining the boundaries of a person's castle as broadly... slackmaster Feb 2013 #16

I don't know that they were precluded before Major Nikon Feb 2013 #17

Kick and Rec for gun fetishists Kingofalldems Feb 2013 #23

It's a shame the Congress has considered it a constitutional right to pack an open AR-15-type weapon indepat Feb 2013 #24

The "right"* to strut through Wal Mart with a pistol perched in their pants has always been a apocalypsehow Feb 2013 #30

Why do you oppose the President and the party platform? hack89 Mar 2013 #35

So "hack89" now supports reinstating the AWB and requiring a gun safety test to buy a gun! Great! apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #36

I could support an AWB I guess - it would have no impact on me hack89 Mar 2013 #37

Why do you oppose the President and the party platform? apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #38

Because he is misguided. Yourself? nt hack89 Mar 2013 #39