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In reply to the discussion: WOW! Robert Plant Hints at Led Zeppelin Reunion Next Year [View all]KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)89. If you think Robert Johnson wrote the music he played you are wrong.
No one owns the Blues, no one owns the A - E - F progression or pentatonic scales. If you don't think Led Zeppelin was original and unique on their expression of Blues and Folk music then we just aren't going to agree on much.
I will agree that the Stones and Led Zeppelin are not on my hot concerts of 2013. For $200+ per seat the ticket should include time travel back to 1973 but I saw Plant live as recently as 2006. Saw his benefit concert for Arthur Lee at the Beacon and he Plant kicked ass:
Robert Plant ended his headlining hour at "We're Doing It for Love" a benefit for Arthur Lee, the ailing singer-songwriter of the pioneering Los Angeles band Love, at New York's Beacon Theater on June 23rd with "Ramble On" from Led Zeppelin II. It was a perfect finale, a thrilling folk-rock gallop with Plant singing of those "days of old, when magic filled the air" with the same excited, forward motion he heard as a teenager in Love's classic mid- and late-Sixties albums.
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But Plant working with a band of New York-based players, on two days' rehearsal truly came for the love of Lee (who is battling leukemia in a Memphis hospital and has no medical insurance). Plant mixed psychedelicized Zeppelin ("In the Evening," "What Is and What Shall Never Be" with a genuine-fans' selection of vintage Love, including the delicate Forever Changes ballad "The Old Man" (Plant acknowledged its writer, Love's late, often overlooked guitarist Bryan MacLean) and a Zeppelin-ized reimagining of "Seven and Seven Is" from 1967's Da Capo (with a surprise tease of Neil Young's "Cowgirl in the Sand" . Plant gave extra credit where credit was due by bringing original Love guitarist Johnny Echols out to reprise his leads on "A House Is Not a Motel" and "Bummer in the Summer." But Plant is a catholic classicist. He followed a dynamic march through Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth" with a rowdy duet with Mott The Hoople's Ian Hunter, also on the show the pair of them making like a heavy-glam Everly Brothers on "When Will I Be Loved." Plant also showed off his big love of Elvis Presley with a startling, credible croon through "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You."
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But Plant working with a band of New York-based players, on two days' rehearsal truly came for the love of Lee (who is battling leukemia in a Memphis hospital and has no medical insurance). Plant mixed psychedelicized Zeppelin ("In the Evening," "What Is and What Shall Never Be" with a genuine-fans' selection of vintage Love, including the delicate Forever Changes ballad "The Old Man" (Plant acknowledged its writer, Love's late, often overlooked guitarist Bryan MacLean) and a Zeppelin-ized reimagining of "Seven and Seven Is" from 1967's Da Capo (with a surprise tease of Neil Young's "Cowgirl in the Sand" . Plant gave extra credit where credit was due by bringing original Love guitarist Johnny Echols out to reprise his leads on "A House Is Not a Motel" and "Bummer in the Summer." But Plant is a catholic classicist. He followed a dynamic march through Buffalo Springfield's "For What It's Worth" with a rowdy duet with Mott The Hoople's Ian Hunter, also on the show the pair of them making like a heavy-glam Everly Brothers on "When Will I Be Loved." Plant also showed off his big love of Elvis Presley with a startling, credible croon through "I Can't Help Falling in Love With You."
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/blogs/alternate-take/live-review-robert-plant-ryan-adams-do-it-for-love-at-arthur-lee-benefit-concert-20060626
As for What is it exactly to "rock hard"? I have a two-part answer. 1. to Rock hard (verb) is to effuse emotional energy such as longing, anger, lust or aggression effectively while performing electrified Blues music; the performer gets extra credit for style, originality and making real connection with the audience. But words only go so far in describing what can ultimately only be felt in one's soul, which is why part 2 of my answer begins at the 3:28 mark of this video...
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I think Stairway to Heaven was actually lifted from Davy Graham as well
sweetloukillbot
Feb 2013
#33
I still have a lot of respect for them, but they have shelf-life issues with me
BeyondGeography
Feb 2013
#81
i felt that way as well re: clapton. i thought that the original layla compared to the newer
leftyohiolib
Feb 2013
#63
You got proof of Beck and Clapton paying them from the goodness of their hearts?
brett_jv
Feb 2013
#54
In college (1980 or so) I bought a Yardbirds album that had Sonny Boy Williamson playing on it
indie9197
Feb 2013
#99
you know, they should have given credit, but at least they made something amazing out of it
JI7
Feb 2013
#39
So you'd be ok with money owed to you for your work going to someone else...
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#87
Get no argument from me on that point. Black musicians were treated abominably.
bluesbassman
Feb 2013
#82
"Immature guitarists borrow, mature guitarists steal" - Screamin' T.S Eliot
Tom Ripley
Feb 2013
#108
I'd rather watch the videos of their great performances from the early 1970s.
Comrade Grumpy
Feb 2013
#10
A-E-F? Now that's a fuckin' progression I'd like to hear a blues player pull off!
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#91
I just gave it a try...A-E-F lends itself quite well to the blues (the use of slide gives it...
Tom Ripley
Feb 2013
#106
No, it would be more like you taking money out of the pockets of current rail yard workers.
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#92
Racist Americans forced these English guys to put their names to songs they didn't write?
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#95
Well, I wasn't trying to get laid by telling you the truth about Led Zeppelin.
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#83
Your Bachelor's, Master's, and PhD are in what? Mine are in music composition.
harmonicon
Feb 2013
#86
I also always thought that was a classy move on the part of Led Zeppelin (a band not known for...
Tom Ripley
Feb 2013
#109
How about this ... the 3 Led Zeppelin songs I DON'T like ... that's easier ...
brett_jv
Feb 2013
#59
Without John Bonham, it will be a Led Zeppelin tribute band in which Plant, Page, and Jones...
Tom Ripley
Feb 2013
#107