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Douglas Carpenter

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57. under the common law children at 10 could work in the mines - but we have moved on to a view that
Tue Feb 19, 2013, 12:48 AM
Feb 2013

children are protected largely because it is accepted that children are too young to make certain decisions. If a child of 10 or 12 or 13 is to be held responsible for their actions the same way an adult would be held responsible - then there really is no rational basis for age of consent laws or laws requiring children of that age to attend school if they don't want to or restricting a child of that age from buying and consuming alcohol. I recall specifically one poster here who would demand that an eleven or twelve year old be tried as an adult and the very same poster would demand that anyone who had sexual relations with someone under 16 should be subjected to the death penalty. I don't think that is logically consistent. A child of that age cannot be both incapable of consent and responsible for their actions.

I really wish people would keep their guns locked up. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #1
The court should be looking to try these kids as adults. avebury Feb 2013 #2
Children timdog44 Feb 2013 #3
Regarding any bullying allegations: avebury Feb 2013 #7
I made my statement timdog44 Feb 2013 #8
According to the second paragraph of the article: avebury Feb 2013 #13
I stand corrected. timdog44 Feb 2013 #14
Socialization... Veri1138 Feb 2013 #32
Sorry, but no jehop61 Feb 2013 #9
It is called being a realist. avebury Feb 2013 #10
These boys timdog44 Feb 2013 #16
They are imitating tv Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #52
My wife is a forensic psychologist Alcibiades Feb 2013 #18
I believe there is a kind of personality called a dependent personality disorder Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #23
I think the word of choice.... ReRe Feb 2013 #29
No TM99 Feb 2013 #31
Many articles I read about Harris and Klebold tblue37 Feb 2013 #40
I stand corrected... ReRe Feb 2013 #41
I would not say corrected TM99 Feb 2013 #46
Exactly Alcibiades Feb 2013 #47
Sorry, but I would credit psychopathy for giving them such ideas Tom Ripley Feb 2013 #30
if they are old enough to consent for sex, old enough to sign a binding contract, old enough to Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #12
They are fifth graders Alcibiades Feb 2013 #19
my point Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #22
Under the Common Law, Children as young as Seven could be hanged. happyslug Feb 2013 #56
under the common law children at 10 could work in the mines - but we have moved on to a view that Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #57
I don't agree FunkyLeprechaun Feb 2013 #21
For "children" they showed a pretty good ability avebury Feb 2013 #24
N/T FunkyLeprechaun Feb 2013 #26
it is far more likely that you would be murdered by your spouse, a close family member or a Douglas Carpenter Feb 2013 #27
the murdering part was bad enough SemperEadem Feb 2013 #34
Bullshit. alphafemale Feb 2013 #35
Psychopathic behavior is not limited to avebury Feb 2013 #36
I worked at an alternative school for bitchkitty Feb 2013 #39
What they need is someone who gives a shit. And someone...or something to give a shit about. alphafemale Feb 2013 #42
Good example. bitchkitty Feb 2013 #44
I'm talking about organized dorm room style programs alphafemale Feb 2013 #45
They are children, they can be still be rehabilitated Marrah_G Feb 2013 #43
why? I think that's ridiculous even if they had murdered their classmate. In fact, cali Feb 2013 #49
Try them as juveniles, then stick them in juvi detention until they're 18 geek tragedy Feb 2013 #4
The plot was foiled by a 4th grader on the bus who saw the knife. truthisfreedom Feb 2013 #5
Point well made timdog44 Feb 2013 #25
Holy crap. Where would a 10 year old get an idea like that? They had to have appleannie1 Feb 2013 #6
All they have to do is watch the news avebury Feb 2013 #11
the news? I don't know many 10 year olds that watch the news cali Feb 2013 #50
see this Rosa Luxemburg Feb 2013 #53
All they have to do skepticscott Feb 2013 #15
I'll bet they have a roomful of violent video games, too theHandpuppet Feb 2013 #33
I have a room full of violent video games TM99 Feb 2013 #38
This is bullshit. Arkana Feb 2013 #51
Our own government justifies iemitsu Feb 2013 #20
Indeed, adults do all kinds of mental gymnastics to justify violence. Ash_F Feb 2013 #37
Or, at least, they thought that their plan would work to solve their problems. iemitsu Feb 2013 #58
I remember a chilling case in SF Mz Pip Feb 2013 #17
Didn't something very much like this happen last month too? Squinch Feb 2013 #28
These kids are clearly budding sociopaths Arkana Feb 2013 #48
Sociopathy is just a kind of mind Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #55
Not really. laundry_queen Feb 2013 #60
Arrange the conditions of their world Shivering Jemmy Feb 2013 #63
Ours is not a child-centric society, chervilant Feb 2013 #54
"For Your Own Good" is an excellent read. I highly recommend it too. nt laundry_queen Feb 2013 #61
I don't know where to wade into this discussion Blackjackdavey Feb 2013 #59
That scares the heck out of me - LibertyLover Feb 2013 #62
Sometimes I wonder if i'm really on a liberal site MindPilot Feb 2013 #64
Thank you MindPilot Blackjackdavey Feb 2013 #65
You're welcome MindPilot Feb 2013 #66
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