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56. Like I said... Biden/Unnamed sources 2016! lol.

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White House rebuffed Clinton-Petraeus plan to arm Syrian rebels: report [View all] Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 OP

Oh sweet Jesus. Please do better, John Kerry. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #1

Hillary has always been one of the biggest hawks in the administration. Jennicut Feb 2013 #9

My big reservation about her, too. There is no way Kerry or Hagel would TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #14

Yeah probably only second to Obama lol. nt BootinUp Feb 2013 #26

Obviously not. Obama said no. Pirate Smile Feb 2013 #38

So you bought it hook line and sinker. BootinUp Feb 2013 #39

The NYT article looked like it came from Clinton people - giving her credit for any Obama successes Pirate Smile Feb 2013 #53

Like I said... Biden/Unnamed sources 2016! lol. BootinUp Feb 2013 #56

Biden in 2016? Beacool Feb 2013 #58

deja vu AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #64

Biden ain't Obama. Beacool Feb 2013 #65

and Hillary ain't no Cleopatra. Whisp Feb 2013 #79

Rand Paul says the US is already arming Syrian rebels through a Libya-Turkey-Syria pipeline. pampango Feb 2013 #63

Hopefully just a crackpot theory. But I will argue that today's story, that TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #66

Apparently Rand Paul does not think that the arms plan was 'rebuffed' by President Obama. pampango Feb 2013 #69

The only pipe involved in that ^^^ is the one Rand Paul is smoking. nt cstanleytech Feb 2013 #67

'Cause you know how much Turkey wants heavily-armed rebels living next door. Scootaloo Feb 2013 #76

who cares if Arabs are murdered by their own government! Deep13 Feb 2013 #2

Who cares if England had aided the confederacy? Ash_F Feb 2013 #7

Who cares if the governor of Cloud City is aiding those Jedi rebels? Bucky Feb 2013 #17

Who cares if you're confusing simplistic movie fantasy with the real world? JackRiddler Feb 2013 #28

Thank you for taking the time and effort to reply. Bucky Feb 2013 #33

What? Deep13 Feb 2013 #27

But aren't the fascists the rebels? Don't they want to be more like the west? nt kelliekat44 Feb 2013 #40

Depends what "be more like the West" means. Deep13 Feb 2013 #50

Well, you need to John2 Feb 2013 #48

Well yeah, the USA's and the UK's imperialism... Deep13 Feb 2013 #52

Every civil war has a government killing it's own people Ash_F Feb 2013 #61

Apparently not you, if the Arabs are in Bahrain. JackRiddler Feb 2013 #29

Yeah, we should not be supporting those regimes. nt Deep13 Feb 2013 #30

Or setting up the next regimes, either. JackRiddler Feb 2013 #34

So what's the alternative? Deep13 Feb 2013 #37

Wrong question, wrong time. JackRiddler Feb 2013 #57

Exactly!!! Beacool Feb 2013 #43

So is this the true reason Petraeus was fired? DFLforever Feb 2013 #3

Maybe just his idea was alarming enough to Obama--but I tend to think TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #4

Could be. DFLforever Feb 2013 #6

Wasn't just an idea. The Benghazi incident was related to the pipeline to Syria. leveymg Feb 2013 #13

Yes. Hillary, too. She was the real mover behind the Libya-Syria regime change operation. leveymg Feb 2013 #12

She's just a knee-jerk interventionist, it sounds like. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #15

Rather, she's a politically sophisticated and aggressive neocon with close ties to the Gulf Arabs leveymg Feb 2013 #18

And good for her for speaking up!!! Beacool Feb 2013 #44

Maybe Petraeus threw a temper tantrum when Obama said no. LiberalFighter Feb 2013 #59

maybe. Who were those people that were 'in command' with him. Whisp Feb 2013 #72

found the names: Fred and Kimberly Kagan (Hardball link) Whisp Feb 2013 #74

I'm glad Obama didn't go the reckless adventure route. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #5

Indeed good to see Obama use his own judgment and avoiding a "reckless adventure" pampango Feb 2013 #8

Me too, but for different reasons. Beacool Feb 2013 #45

Good. Socal31 Feb 2013 #10

Hindsight isn't always 20-20. Igel Feb 2013 #41

Sometimes hindsight is pretty darn close to 20-20 Socal31 Feb 2013 #47

I bet what happened in Egypt is exactly why Obama nixed this idea... Drunken Irishman Feb 2013 #49

I've been telling you this is what happened. Bengahazi was blow-back from that operation. leveymg Feb 2013 #11

No, she was going to step down anyway. Petraeus wasn't, but he was TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #16

She had tenure as SoS for one term. It's not clear she had decided to leave until after Benghazi. leveymg Feb 2013 #19

Yeah, that must be why Hillary had already announced that she didn't plan to stay for a second term Beacool Feb 2013 #46

She didn't make an official announcement until after Benghazi leveymg Feb 2013 #60

the uncertainty was stoked AtomicKitten Feb 2013 #62

She has some expert stokers. leveymg Feb 2013 #68

This story is about as reliable as something on Drudge. BootinUp Feb 2013 #20

I don't know who released it, or why. Or why now. TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #21

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Do you find this story to be not credible? TwilightGardener Feb 2013 #23

1. There is no way to know BootinUp Feb 2013 #25

There's no way to know? JackRiddler Feb 2013 #32

How do you define secret policy? BootinUp Feb 2013 #36

It's Reuters citing the New York Times citing "unnamed Obama administration officials" Comrade Grumpy Feb 2013 #24

Seems like a trend lately, don't like the content of an article...tarnish the source regardless of Purveyor Feb 2013 #77

Well, if true, this shows I was right to support Obama in 2008. Mass Feb 2013 #31

And also if true, Arrowhead2k1 Feb 2013 #35

Oh, because things are going sooooo well in Syria. Beacool Feb 2013 #42

Just follow history. John2 Feb 2013 #55

Good for the president still_one Feb 2013 #51

It's 100% John Kerry's responsiblity now.Time for campaigning is over. Time for Job is now. graham4anything Feb 2013 #54

When did Kerry become President? That kind of decision is made by the President karynnj Feb 2013 #71

Robert Dreyfuss, The Nation: Good Riddance to Warmonger Hillary Clinton antigop Feb 2013 #70

Petraeus, thankfully, is gone. And Hillary Clinton, Obama’s hawk, is gone, too. Whisp Feb 2013 #73

Yeah, let's just stand by and watch Assad decimate the rest of his country. Beacool Feb 2013 #75

Considering how well Egypt and Libya went…… MrSlayer Feb 2013 #78