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Thu Jan 31, 2013, 09:38 PM

22. Doesn't take that much energy and it is a necessary antidote to the bullshit claim often made

that "guns don't kill" or "it's not because of the guns" or that "getting rid of guns wouldn't stop mass killings".

We need to be clear that yes, the killings happen because of guns.

You say it is "never going to happen" and I say that that is a self-fulfilling prophecy that should not be accepted as an argument against the common sense realization that it is the presence of the guns that is the most obvious cause of the violence.

I reject it that self-fulfilling prophecy. You might be right that it will never happen, but it is never a waste of time to make clear what the real issue is.

It is not mental health issues, it is not a breakdown of morality, it is not "gun safety". It is gun access.

You say "politics is the art of the possible" and I say politics is the art of making people think they have choice.

In reality, power is what gets shit done. If a plant that can be grown in the ground can be made illegal and millions of people thrown in jail over it, you can bet your ass the govt. has enough power to take away the guns if it chooses to do so. So yes, it is a choice and no, it is not impossible.

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