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Crepuscular

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21. Huge difference
Thu Jan 31, 2013, 10:30 PM
Jan 2013

It's certainly likely that if you could wave a magic wand and instantly make every one of those 270 million guns disappear, that gun violence would drop dramatically. But that is never going to happen and nobody is suggesting any kind of regulatory change that would eliminate a single gun from private ownership, or even eliminate certain types of guns, only some cosmetic features that can be removed and do nothing to influence the functionality of the weapon.

It's both a distraction and a waste of time and energy lamenting what should happen, politics is the art of the possible, and the reality is that the only kind of reform that has a chance of being passed in this climate that may have a tangible impact on gun violence is to pass legislation that would require that all firearms transfers go through an FFL and to require some kind of a firearms owners license that would include a background check and some mental health screening.

Well, there you are. May as well reject them. mac56 Jan 2013 #1
End, no. Decrease, yes. Decrease the body count, definitely Warpy Jan 2013 #2
Certainly the proposals so far won't "end" them, but it will help reduce them a lot. PSPS Jan 2013 #3
Assumes facts not in evidence ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #9
Whatever. I don't even know what "this" is. PSPS Jan 2013 #10
Let's find out, shall we? randome Jan 2013 #11
Let's try things that address root causes first? High probability of success ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #13
He's probably right, but it will reduce the gun violence and over Laurian Jan 2013 #4
Hah...news?.....or Gungeon fodder?...nt pkdu Jan 2013 #5
So, VP Biden has been watching the Gungeon for hiz analysis? Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #30
Are you accusing our Democratic Vice President Joeseph Biden of pkdu Jan 2013 #38
Well, in New Orleans anything is possible. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #41
The type of gun is much less important Recursion Jan 2013 #6
The sad part is talk of "bans" has caused firearms of all types to fly off gun store shelves. ... spin Jan 2013 #12
Look, idiots will part with their cash one way or another. Fact of life. Pholus Feb 2013 #53
Sadly true. (n/t) spin Feb 2013 #70
it will save some lives, however.. frylock Jan 2013 #7
Why do you think that? Crepuscular Jan 2013 #15
how long do you suppose james holmes had his 100 rd mag? frylock Jan 2013 #17
Ten years? Crepuscular Jan 2013 #18
how many of those are changing hands? frylock Feb 2013 #45
millions Crepuscular Feb 2013 #66
i'm not living under any illusion.. frylock Feb 2013 #67
I don't think that the vice-President Crepuscular Feb 2013 #68
Combine what Biden says.... ReRe Jan 2013 #8
Theory: Hand-helds give us intense individuation in an era of blow it out celebrity. Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #33
I'm a dummy... ReRe Feb 2013 #42
Don't watch/play either. I'm suggesting that Inet/innerTube cimmunication.. Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #43
I wish my doctor would LET me get ripped... ReRe Feb 2013 #44
Sometimes that's what it takes. Consider my notion... Eleanors38 Feb 2013 #47
Biden is right ProgressiveProfessor Jan 2013 #14
Of course they would. Bonobo Jan 2013 #16
Of course they won't. Crepuscular Jan 2013 #19
Let me restate. Bonobo Jan 2013 #20
Huge difference Crepuscular Jan 2013 #21
Doesn't take that much energy and it is a necessary antidote to the bullshit claim often made Bonobo Jan 2013 #22
It may make you feel good Crepuscular Jan 2013 #23
Take away the guns and most of the killings stop. It is not complex. Bonobo Jan 2013 #24
It's not complex Crepuscular Jan 2013 #25
Why do you think America is SO different from the rest of the world? Bonobo Jan 2013 #27
Ironic Crepuscular Jan 2013 #34
I can live with the notion that HST would have disagreed with me. nt Bonobo Jan 2013 #36
what do you think dr. thompson's take on military-style semi-autos with 30 rd mags would be? frylock Feb 2013 #46
Considering he shot guns for fun hack89 Feb 2013 #52
LoL! Crepuscular Feb 2013 #64
So how do you do it? Ter Jan 2013 #28
Most people. But that is irrelevant. Bonobo Jan 2013 #29
It's all speculation Ter Jan 2013 #31
Talk about crazy ass, wild-eyes speculation! Bonobo Jan 2013 #35
And in your world, gun owners don't vote? NickB79 Feb 2013 #48
If we only pursued policies that were popular with conservatives, WE Bonobo Feb 2013 #49
Well sure. Buy low and sell high, and you get rich Recursion Feb 2013 #55
To pass an admendment to remove the second, you need 3/4ths of the states to approve it. Travis_0004 Jan 2013 #32
You're no fun. Jeeez... Eleanors38 Jan 2013 #37
Yes he is. Bonobo Jan 2013 #40
Can't do it right now. Bonobo Jan 2013 #39
Anyone with 2 brain cells.. sendero Jan 2013 #26
Biden gives us a blinding flash of the obvious Blandocyte Feb 2013 #50
And DUI laws don't stop all drunk driving deaths. JoePhilly Feb 2013 #51
SO we should repeal them. Heck I haven't seen murder laws work for that matter. Pholus Feb 2013 #54
DUI laws work. Banning alcohol didn't Recursion Feb 2013 #56
It's a pity there is no equivalent of a drivers license to lose. Pholus Feb 2013 #57
It is. We should change that Recursion Feb 2013 #58
Registration was the NRA bogeyman in the 80's and 90's. Pholus Feb 2013 #60
I didn't say register guns. I said license gun and ammo purchasers Recursion Feb 2013 #61
But registering either is enough to identify who has what. Pholus Feb 2013 #71
Not really. Imagine cars were unregistered. Recursion Feb 2013 #72
If I were to decide to grab all the cars, I have a list of where to start. Pholus Feb 2013 #73
Also, as basic as this sounds, cars are large Recursion Feb 2013 #74
How can you claim they work if people still die as a result of drunk drivers????? JoePhilly Feb 2013 #59
Sigh Recursion Feb 2013 #62
In concert with very strict mental health guidelines, it will certainly help marshall Feb 2013 #63
And he's right--they won't. Arkana Feb 2013 #65
Kind of a pointless waste of breath primavera Feb 2013 #69
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