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In the discussion thread: 15-year-old girl who performed at Obama inauguration gunned down in Chicago [View all]

Response to MannyGoldstein (Reply #9)

Wed Jan 30, 2013, 11:16 AM

slackmaster (60,567 posts)

11. What's your "simple, common sense" fix for Chicago's long-standing problem with violent crime?

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It seems like a lot of dedicated, intelligent people have tried to do something many times and failed.

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15-year-old girl who performed at Obama inauguration gunned down in Chicago [View all]	Ichingcarpenter	Jan 2013	OP
Repeal the second amendment NOW	CBGLuthier	Jan 2013	#1
Yes to this^^^^^^Every person who owns a gun owns this girls death!	Walk away	Jan 2013	#6
Writers who abuse hyperbole deserve to be taken out and shot.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#16
No, put them on the confiscation team.	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#24
Lots of responses from the Gun Lobby. Even one that wants to shoot me!	Walk away	Jan 2013	#32
Honestly	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#46
Please look up the word 'hyperbole' eom	Maeve	Jan 2013	#47
Since I don't own or advocate the use of guns....	Walk away	Jan 2013	#65
And now I'm sorry I voted to let your post stand eom	Maeve	Jan 2013	#85
So, you ADMIT that reply #6 was an abuse of hyperbole.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#116
Not at all. Every gun owner has done his or her part in supporting and contributing to....	Walk away	Jan 2013	#139
The fact is, that every time you spend a dollar, you vote with that dollar.	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#173
while you responded by making a death threat	BainsBane	Feb 2013	#246
Same to those who believe a non-consequential and visceral reaction is part and parcel...	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#75
Tasteless.	caseymoz	Jan 2013	#122
interesting what outages you	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#232
Sad.	Walk away	Feb 2013	#243
No^^^^^^to this.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#19
What you own is irrelevant to a Constitutional argument.	caseymoz	Jan 2013	#141
Huh?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#142
This message was self-deleted by its author	caseymoz	Jan 2013	#151
Every dollar you spend is a vote for the world you want to live in. So, being a gun owner...	dorksied	Jan 2013	#226
I see you have enjoyed your stay;	greiner3	Jan 2013	#170
So far, yes.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#172
Your post is one of the reasons that sensible	whistler162	Jan 2013	#21
That's a bit over the top	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#23
Yeah, but try alerting on it.	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#33
Hate much? Are you a liberal with a free pass to hate?	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#28
Grow up.	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#98
If growing up is to approximate your status, I'll stick with my condition.	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#114
While his post was somewhat juvenile, I support his position. Guns are a disease.	dorksied	Jan 2013	#227
Just another opinion.nt	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#237
I own her death?	Papagoose	Jan 2013	#30
I guess I'm responsible for every person killed by a drunk driver	Bonduel	Jan 2013	#64
coming out of the woodwork now	Skittles	Jan 2013	#230
Or maybe it's your fault for living in a country with a 2nd amendment.	dkf	Jan 2013	#71
One may only imagine then the area surrounding Sandy Hook ES was rampant with gang problems...	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#87
That one was not fixable unless someone who knew him turned him in as a threat.	dkf	Jan 2013	#157
Fact is, if the gangs were operating out in the open, in a upper class white area,	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#179
I bet that is true.	dkf	Jan 2013	#180
This ^^^^^ strikes me as illogical	Blandocyte	Jan 2013	#76
No. Everyone who smokes pot owns this girl's death	guardian	Jan 2013	#156
For real, but the pot smokers will need to take a break from	Blandocyte	Jan 2013	#159
Sadly, you do have a point.	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#161
It ain't Chronic in those chambers	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#181
You are confusing the issue.	Glassunion	Jan 2013	#197
Agree with the last bit, only...	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#200
Whatever helps you sleep at night.	Glassunion	Jan 2013	#202
Not sure I agree with that	dreamnightwind	Jan 2013	#207
What you think, and what is reality differ from each other.	Glassunion	Jan 2013	#220
Sorry that's just ridiculous	dreamnightwind	Jan 2013	#225
No blood spilled when ya grow your own meds	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#208
I never mentioned "grow your own".	Glassunion	Jan 2013	#221
The last I heard this poor child was shot by a bullet. Every single company that...	Walk away	Feb 2013	#244
+1	patrice	Jan 2013	#166
Laying blame on the innocent is a despicable guilt tactic	davidthegnome	Jan 2013	#239
Thank you	ellie	Jan 2013	#43
REPEAL REPEAL REPEAL! Say it again and again.	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#66
You say repeal,	nick of time	Jan 2013	#81
Repeal the 2nd Amendment?	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#82
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#96
You are most likely correct.	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#101
They'd be an insurgency	Hayabusa	Jan 2013	#129
You mean like Iraq and Afghanistan?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#136
Continually insulting one's opponents typically doesn't get one very far.	Comrade Grumpy	Jan 2013	#155
I'm not a gun owner or a fan of guns in general...	TroglodyteScholar	Jan 2013	#100
Yup	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#105
I thought the purpose of guns were to protect you.	caseymoz	Jan 2013	#146
That is the most likely outcome.	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#153
All I could say is . . .	caseymoz	Feb 2013	#245
Please name 38 states whose legislatures could be persuaded to agree	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#84
Fucking A.	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#95
Gun Humpers	DainBramaged	Jan 2013	#113
Absolutely -Society Should Not Be Held Hostage By Fear	cantbeserious	Jan 2013	#119
Ain't gonna happen and here is why..	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#178
No need to repeal. Just do away with the creative interpretation of it.	PSPS	Jan 2013	#183
That would REALLY show those drug gangs who's boss.	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2013	#192
The city of Chicago already has super-strict gun-control	Ter	Jan 2013	#206
I'm at a lack of words for this one, sooo totally F'en senseless. n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#2
Incredibly sad. It wouldn't be surprising to learn she was targeted because she	geek tragedy	Jan 2013	#3
It wouldn't surprise me to learn she was targeted by a gun nut	intheflow	Jan 2013	#13
Seriously?	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#25
you're serious?	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#29
Really?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#34
That's just plain wacky n/t	RZM	Jan 2013	#240
Doubtful, though possible	MynameisBlarney	Jan 2013	#14
It's my belief that this poor girl was killed for the very reason you state.	Eleanors38	Jan 2013	#31
Nope. She was just one person amongst many in one of those marching bands.	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#79
Guns and esteem issues	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#185
Chicago has more than its share of fucked up, violent people for some reason	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#4
It is predominantly due to the resurgence of gangs	frazzled	Jan 2013	#26
lead poisoning leads to lead flying	mopinko	Jan 2013	#54
Leaded gasoline fumes?	KamaAina	Jan 2013	#70
that lead is still everywhere. and that is just about right. gang leaders are in their 30's and 40's	mopinko	Jan 2013	#176
So violent crime should be on the way out soon	KamaAina	Jan 2013	#177
statistics say it is.	mopinko	Jan 2013	#184
Prisons are bursting at the seams	KamaAina	Jan 2013	#189
Many of our large cities, and small ones, have problems with gang violence.	amandabeech	Jan 2013	#27
Change the economic cliamate and...	rsmith6621	Jan 2013	#58
Haven't we had gangs since revolutionary times?	derby378	Jan 2013	#63
Remember "Gangs of New York?"	amandabeech	Jan 2013	#68
Never mind the 19th century, the Romans had street gangs. (nt)	Posteritatis	Jan 2013	#233
Gangs since Neanderthal	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#186
That's a bit of a strecth	derby378	Jan 2013	#187
You mean Banks? Big Pharma? War in Iraq?	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#190
It's a 'sense of belonging'. Most people thrive on being a part of something.	Blanks	Jan 2013	#205
Lots more decent jobs would help so many problems,	amandabeech	Jan 2013	#72
you're right but that also means change the drug laws	wordpix	Jan 2013	#211
How did New York do it? Copy their methods. New York is night and day from 1970s. nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#194
and its still not the most	iamthebandfanman	Jan 2013	#41
Chicago has had a long and sordid history of this since the St. Valentine's Day Massacre	derby378	Jan 2013	#53
...	ZombieHorde	Jan 2013	#5
hit me the same way	Ichingcarpenter	Jan 2013	#7
.	one_voice	Jan 2013	#8
Am I the only one who's tired of our impotence	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2013	#9
What's your "simple, common sense" fix for Chicago's long-standing problem with violent crime?	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#11
Attack teachers unions under the fake pretext that there's a budget gap, then	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2013	#50
We don't use the Brady scorecard - try DOJ/FBI statistics instead	derby378	Jan 2013	#55
The "gun death" rate is not an accurate measure of how safe a place is. The overall murder rate is.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#61
Washington State has far more lax laws than California.	AtheistCrusader	Jan 2013	#77
Really?	eaglesfanintn	Jan 2013	#80
You've indulged in a bit of cherry-picking, which is reasonable considering that I did as well.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#83
Sure	eaglesfanintn	Jan 2013	#86
I think that state is Maryland, not Delaware.	geardaddy	Jan 2013	#130
Excuse me. California is one of the low per-capita gun death rates states.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#104
The map in my previous post shows that Califonria is not one of the lowest per-capita murder states	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#107
Gun deaths are the topic at issue.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#204
Overall murder rates peaked in California in 1993 and have generally been on a downward trend...	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#228
Besides failed economic policies...	Bay Boy	Jan 2013	#62
Agreed. Nt	MannyGoldstein	Jan 2013	#69
Agree!	patrice	Jan 2013	#106
Here is how I'd handle it.	Shadowflash	Jan 2013	#67
Terribly sad....and Wayne LaPierre is now testifying at the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing....	George II	Jan 2013	#10
He would say.	iandhr	Jan 2013	#49
MORE GUNS!!!	Iggo	Jan 2013	#12
Sounds like a gang hit,	nick of time	Jan 2013	#15
Sounds like somebody shot her.	Iggo	Jan 2013	#37
That's what I meant.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#38
If you can't be somebody, get notoreity by killing someone of stature.	geek tragedy	Jan 2013	#39
Now that makes sense,	nick of time	Jan 2013	#40
This was not a person of stature	RZM	Jan 2013	#242
Likely political, considering the state of the gun debate.	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#74
Don't think so.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#78
Possibly. But there's lots of crazies out there surrounding the gun issue.	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#90
No doubt about that,	nick of time	Jan 2013	#92
You don't really know the reason why, and the reason is probably stupid, like jealousy	wordpix	Jan 2013	#212
You're right.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#214
This insanity has to stop	SCantiGOP	Jan 2013	#17
Everyone has the right to live	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#18
Yep. She should've been carrying to protect her rights, right?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#35
No, it probably wouldn't have made any difference	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#42
Right.	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#89
You lost me at "Yet according to you..."	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#102
Unreasonable, isn't it?	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#110
I'd gladly enter into a wager about the nature of the person who murdered the girl	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#112
In your feverish pursuit of chasing down whatever distraction you can find	BlueCaliDem	Jan 2013	#134
Yes, a gun. One of those things that are BANNED in Chicago.	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#149
When does this all end?	Botany	Jan 2013	#20
How sad. What a waste of young talent.	athena	Jan 2013	#22
...	Melinda	Jan 2013	#36
When will this senseless violence end?	iandhr	Jan 2013	#44
.	patrice	Jan 2013	#45
Tears also. I can hardly believe this.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#158
You can SEE that she's an angel, trying to do good for her community. Breaks our hearts!!!	patrice	Jan 2013	#162
Goddamn this world is depressing.	AtheistCrusader	Jan 2013	#48
I literally CANNOT stand hearing about these babies being killed. Not a criticism of you, OP.	Happyhippychick	Jan 2013	#51
All of the guns...	slackmaster	Jan 2013	#52
That would be the optimal solution, if it could be done IMHO ...	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#217
Monstrous	Ian Iam	Jan 2013	#56
Who knows who did this	sakabatou	Jan 2013	#57
My gut reaction is that the South Side should be razed by bulldozers	derby378	Jan 2013	#59
The West side has the same problems.	former9thward	Jan 2013	#109
Yeah...	derby378	Jan 2013	#120
I can hear the Right Wing now claiming Obama had her shot....	Spitfire of ATJ	Jan 2013	#60
Of course they will. It's perfect for them.	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#93
Oh, of COURSE ...	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#218
Right - every gun crime from now on will be part of the conspiracy!	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#241
That sounds targeted. Who done it?	grahamhgreen	Jan 2013	#73
The 2nd amendment	angrychair	Jan 2013	#88
It says 'keep and bear' ... which are terms associated with military usage ...	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#222
I agree with you	davidpdx	Jan 2013	#229
A bullet through the heart of the nation.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#91
We need to treat guns like a new panademic. And the vaccine is putting a ring around it	graham4anything	Jan 2013	#94
Check points at the state???	former9thward	Jan 2013	#152
.	Paulie	Jan 2013	#97
How sad!!!	Beacool	Jan 2013	#99
... Police said 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton was taking shelter from the rain under a canopy	struggle4progress	Jan 2013	#103
Yep.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#108
Such a vibrant, pretty girl	AgingAmerican	Jan 2013	#111
I weep for Chicago, and more importantly	Lifelong Protester	Jan 2013	#115
Another "message" sent by the disgusting right wing	harrose	Jan 2013	#117
Not true at all.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#118
It can't be, because they we can't blame our political enemies for it.	hughee99	Jan 2013	#121
No, no, no.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#123
No, I don't think it was anyone public like Hannity or Limbaugh...	harrose	Jan 2013	#125
I'd actually be somewhat surprised to find that out.	hughee99	Jan 2013	#154
Just a week or so after the inauguration?	harrose	Jan 2013	#126
WGN and police have already said that it was a case of her	nick of time	Jan 2013	#127
I wouldn't put it above the reich wing	harrose	Jan 2013	#131
Maybe, but not in this case.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#133
You might be right...	harrose	Jan 2013	#135
Fair enough.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#138
Things that "seem random"...	harrose	Jan 2013	#143
True,	nick of time	Jan 2013	#145
What are you talking about?	Beacool	Jan 2013	#215
this is terrible!!	hue	Jan 2013	#124
i feel like crying	samsingh	Jan 2013	#128
Jesus Christ	damnedifIknow	Jan 2013	#132
sigh....	Marrah_G	Jan 2013	#137
I am sick of this.	Not Me	Jan 2013	#140
When the extremists on both sides are silenced	nick of time	Jan 2013	#144
lol - your slip is showing.	TBF	Jan 2013	#164
My slip is showing? What does that even mean?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#167
That is your framing -	TBF	Jan 2013	#196
Indeed so.....n/t	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#175
Yeah, we should shoot them	BudHardener	Jan 2013	#188
Huh?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#209
omg how sad! please, about all the BICKERING...	BlancheSplanchnik	Jan 2013	#147
Why have we let it get so out of hand?	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#148
This was going on before Chicago's gun laws were declared unconstitutional	askeptic	Jan 2013	#150
So terribly sad.	AverageJoe90	Jan 2013	#160
lapierre is puking it up RIGHT NOW on tv. what a despicable scumbag	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#163
AWESOME!!! Leahy just handed WAYNEY his sorry scummy ass on a plate	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#165
You'll find that most of the gun humpers.....	llmart	Jan 2013	#199
i liked the hawaiian lady @ the end too	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#236
the Chief from MD is pretty damn cool too	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#168
also AWESOME, i think feinstein made wayney BLUSH!!!	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#169
THE BEST WAY OF STOPPING A BAD GUY IN THE FIRST PLACE IS A GOOD BACKGROUND CHECK!!!	farminator3000	Jan 2013	#171
Only cowards use guns on unarmed persons	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#174
This is DU? A girl gets shot and people worry if the gun is okay?	Scootaloo	Jan 2013	#182
I don't recall seeing this hue and cry after 7 people were murdered on Saturday	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2013	#191
Another way to look at it, 87 gun accidents a day.	WHEN CRABS ROAR	Jan 2013	#193
So sad	shenmue	Jan 2013	#195
This is just so heartbreaking	Danmel	Jan 2013	#198
R.I.P.	southern_belle	Jan 2013	#201
Goddamit to fucking HELL! How long are we going to tolerate this?	eridani	Jan 2013	#203
I've been asking that	mimi85	Jan 2013	#210
As long as we let lobbyists buy our congress people	wordpix	Jan 2013	#213
Very sad and it continues to drive home the need for gun control	davidpdx	Jan 2013	#216
For sure ... see my post above ...	brett_jv	Jan 2013	#219
Rest in Peace, Hadiya.	mia	Jan 2013	#223
Let's not kid ourselves, Chicago is out of fucking control. Send in the troops.	bubbayugga	Jan 2013	#224
Send them in to do what, precisely? (nt)	Posteritatis	Jan 2013	#234
Another victory for La Pierre and his friends	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#231
What a beautiful child	BeyondGeography	Jan 2013	#235
There is a straight line between our state's budget woes and the surge in murders	AngryAmish	Jan 2013	#238

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