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43. And, remember, the "Friggin Mormon" cult, was in the shadows behind

Reply to HERVEPA (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 28, 2013, 04:09 PM

Jan 2013

Prop. 8...in California, not even Utah.

They're a skeezy bunch.

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NBC News: Boy Scouts Close to Ending Ban on Gay Members, Leaders [View all] Hissyspit Jan 2013 OP

This is an issue that has prevented us from allowing our boys in scouting AllyCat Jan 2013 #1

We didn't allow our son to join Cub Scouts. We made our own group. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #19

Interesting. I don't like a group that discriminates against certain people. AllyCat Jan 2013 #22

We just did our own group. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #38

I don't have children but I have insisted that family members with sons do just as you have done Blasphemer Jan 2013 #76

I would love to see this happen. n/t TDale313 Jan 2013 #2

Oh God. ForgoTheConsequence Jan 2013 #3

Didn't we just go through this... DonViejo Jan 2013 #4

The BSA is getting hammered Xithras Jan 2013 #12

Maybe now that Romney lost, they're less concerned about the LDS. n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #13

Even Mitt Romney said that the BSA should drop the ban Xithras Jan 2013 #32

Yes, but he said that years ago. He's certainly flip-flopped by now. n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #33

Possibly Xithras Jan 2013 #36

They deserved the hammering they got... DonViejo Jan 2013 #25

I agree. This is mostly the national Committee trying .... oldhippie Jan 2013 #74

I absolutely do NOT agree with that. Xithras Jan 2013 #80

Core values of hatred and bigotry? dbackjon Jan 2013 #83

I find it hard to believe that a "former scout" would say that. Xithras Jan 2013 #86

It is far more than a few Texas Bigots dbackjon Jan 2013 #89

The proposal would not leave the decision to the units, but to the chartering organization. Xithras Jan 2013 #90

80% of Scouting units in Arizona dbackjon Jan 2013 #91

There's some debate as to what would happen with the Catholic units. Xithras Jan 2013 #92

Here you go - Catholic and Mormon bigots won't change. No hope for Arizona Scouting. dbackjon Jan 2013 #93

The quote from Sister Walsh is the one I was talking about. Xithras Jan 2013 #94

So if the BSA allows local decision dbackjon Jan 2013 #95

Yes, the local facilities would not be permitted to block them. Xithras Jan 2013 #96

That is interesting to know -thanks dbackjon Jan 2013 #97

Not good enough surrealAmerican Jan 2013 #5

They would just be following President Obama's lead on Gay Rights being a local issue dbackjon Jan 2013 #18

w00t! Taverner Jan 2013 #6

It would be one of those "bout time" Bohunk68 Jan 2013 #7

I'll believe it when I see it. Fearless Jan 2013 #8

But they'll allow local bigotry? SpartanDem Jan 2013 #9

Yet I got hammered here for not being impressed with President Obama dbackjon Jan 2013 #20

And you still haven't done the research I recommended to you DonViejo Jan 2013 #30

I have done my research. Have you really done yours? dbackjon Jan 2013 #45

When someone relies on racist comments... DonViejo Jan 2013 #47

There was nothing racist in my comments dbackjon Jan 2013 #49

It's a crack in the facade. It should be celebrated for that reason alone. randome Jan 2013 #26

"color me unimpressed with this "change"." SoapBox Jan 2013 #42

Many of us involved in scouting have LONG said that this was a simple compromise. Xithras Jan 2013 #10

No, not fine if the local group, part of national organization, discriminates HERVEPA Jan 2013 #11

First off, this would be a first step. Xithras Jan 2013 #17

Thank you Stargazer09 Jan 2013 #28

I am the CRO for my unit Gothmog Jan 2013 #31

No it is not dbackjon Jan 2013 #66

And, remember, the "Friggin Mormon" cult, was in the shadows behind SoapBox Jan 2013 #43

Exactly. And not quite the shadows. Big, big bucks. HERVEPA Jan 2013 #46

Suppose they're the only group in town TrogL Jan 2013 #52

There is no limit to the density of scouting units. Xithras Jan 2013 #57

You haven't been in much of the rural west or south then dbackjon Jan 2013 #67

You're conflating problems. Xithras Jan 2013 #81

And you are excusing bigotry and hatred dbackjon Jan 2013 #82

To paraphraise Voltaire, "Perfection is the enemy of progress". Xithras Jan 2013 #84

If wanting immediate equality for all ends the existence of BSA dbackjon Jan 2013 #85

That's where our opinions split. Xithras Jan 2013 #87

kick! hedgehog Jan 2013 #14

A step forward for progress iandhr Jan 2013 #15

How about atheists? Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #16

Tell them you pray to the FSM Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #24

Ironically, that would work. Xithras Jan 2013 #41

In my book FSM is just as valid as any other god people pray too Lesmoderesstupides Jan 2013 #44

I never got any shit for being an atheist in the Scouts. Codeine Jan 2013 #58

AFAIK most worldwide Scouting has an issue with non-theists. mwooldri Jan 2013 #60

I went through 7 years as an adult leader Gore1FL Jan 2013 #61

I'd never participate in an organization that had an official no gays/no atheists policy, though. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #70

The US has had backwards laws an policies. Gore1FL Jan 2013 #71

I never liked the rah rah rightwing patriotic bent of the Scouts. Arugula Latte Jan 2013 #72

I didn't experience that right-wing patriotic bent Gore1FL Jan 2013 #77

Excellent. K&R for progress, and may it continue. Brickbat Jan 2013 #21

The Mormons relax BSA rules? longship Jan 2013 #23

"other organizations have threatened to withdraw their financial support if the BSA drops the ban." KamaAina Jan 2013 #27

United Way Gothmog Jan 2013 #34

No, no. He's saying some groups will cease funding if they DROP the ban. KamaAina Jan 2013 #35

They BSA would be better off if the policy is changed Gothmog Jan 2013 #39

Why in the name of the FSM are there troops that are segregated by religion? KamaAina Jan 2013 #48

It depends on the chartering organization Gothmog Jan 2013 #53

This may be the best that we can hope for Gothmog Jan 2013 #29

Discrimination at the Local LEvel is the BEST we could hope for? dbackjon Jan 2013 #68

That leaves atheists as the sole pariah now. no_hypocrisy Jan 2013 #37

My local troop when I was younger openly ignored the ban NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #40

One of the New York Councils has stated that it was ignoring the national policy Gothmog Jan 2013 #54

Okay, as long as they're not ATHEIST Gay members... brooklynite Jan 2013 #50

SMOKE & MIRRORS! William769 Jan 2013 #51

This is where I like the Canadian Scouts Posteritatis Jan 2013 #55

Most if not all of World Scouting Organizations reject the BSA policy Gothmog Jan 2013 #56

It is important for one reason. Gore1FL Jan 2013 #79

I am so happy d_r Jan 2013 #59

This isn't the victory a lot are making it out to be. AngryOldDem Jan 2013 #62

I disagree Gothmog Jan 2013 #63

... but only if they agree to castration? panzerfaust Jan 2013 #64

Too late. Occulus Jan 2013 #65

This Eagle Scout CRK7376 Jan 2013 #69

This Eagle Scout Gore1FL Jan 2013 #78

Not that I have a dog in this fight Le Taz Hot Jan 2013 #73

My son's scout group is headed by a transgendered man marshall Jan 2013 #75

I can't help but laugh at all the right wingers calling up on the radio... davidn3600 Jan 2013 #88