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Response to jasendorf (Reply #18)
Sat Jan 26, 2013, 09:20 PM
cascadiance (17,291 posts)
28. It was supposed to be for a SMALL number of workers that they couldn't get otherwise...
with unique qualifications that are harder to get amongst Americans (like certain foreign language skills as well as technical skills). If it were limited to that, and companies were willing to pay extra to have one employee to do that rather than hiring two to get both sets of skills, I wouldn't mind the H-1B visa program. The cap being low shouldn't prevent companies from being helped with THESE situations.
Way back in the 80's and 90's, I recall when managers I knew laughed at how they were able to subvert the "rules" of the H-1B program and hire foreign workers as H-1B employees through "body shop" contract firms. They weren't contracted out as "workers" but a "service" that allowed them to manipulate more what they paid to those workers doing the "service", since contracting companies didn't have the data to "measure" what they paid for these contractors versus their own employees.
And then these body shops got away with paying lower salaries because they ONLY hired H-1B workers, and therefore had no domestic American workers to compare their salaries against to live up to the USELESS rule that was made in the program that those hiring H-1B workers should be hired to the "prevailing wage" of domestic workers doing the same job, since they only hired H-1B workers and had no American workers that they had to pay "equal" salaries too. Thus they paid them dirt, and the companies contracting them out also enjoyed paying them dirt!
It even affected H-1B workers places where they lived. I recall when right across the hall from me, a bunch of them all crowded in to a rental unit that my neighbor had left (during the housing mess at the end of the dotcom bomb era when rents were skyrocketing). The guy hiring them then suddenly decided to have them kicked out so that he could move in himself. H-1B workers, under the threat of being deported if they offend their employers in the least (as the indentured servants they were), couldn't take them on in court for pulling this crap.
That's who we are competing with when we allow more of these kind of workers to come in. We need to stand up for our rights as workers AND those in other countries who are forced to come in under these conditions to have decent jobs. Their countries shouldn't be "the bottom" that companies race to, and pay them decently as well. If all of us were organized around the world, it would be that much harder for these big companies and our bought politicians from playing these games.
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