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MADem

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17. Nice try....you didn't read the "but but" bit that followed, did you?
Fri Jan 25, 2013, 04:10 AM
Jan 2013

Yes, the embargo was (past tense) an issue, but four years ago, Obama offered a tech assist that was TURNED DOWN. That's right there IN the article.

The thing that has held it up for the last four years is lack of funding and government interaction--or more appropriately, deliberate government INACTION.

Read the whole article. Don't cherry pick.


The Cuban government is AFRAID of Facebook and Twitter:

In a video circulating in Havana, probably leaked by the government, an official promises to fight back against the American government's use of social-networking sites to promote dissent. “They have their bloggers and we have our bloggers,” he says. “We will fight to see who is stronger.” Recently, for the first time in three years, Cuban internet users could access the website of Yoani Sánchez, an opposition blogger. Along with her many supporters abroad, a handful of government backers have taken to posting their hostile comments. A virtual battle has begun.
http://www.economist.com/node/18285798


Statement from Cuban gov't on VZ cable:

“The ALBA-1 fiber-optic underwater telecommunications cable linking Cuba with Venezuela and Jamaica has been operational since August 2012, initially providing service to voice traffic for international telephone calls,” said the company.

The note adds that “testing of the quality of Internet traffic has been performed on the system since January 10. The same has been done on real traffic to and from Cuba in order to standardize this communication link.”

Notwithstanding, ETECSA notes that after the tests are completed, this “does not mean there will be an automatic increase in opportunities for access. Investments will need to be made first in the internal telecommunications infrastructure as well as an increase in foreign exchange resources.”

The Cuban government has thereby ended its official silence on the issue while closing the door to immediate changes in internet service on the island.


http://www.havanatimes.org/?p=86444

Translation--they don't have any MONEY to do an upgrade.
That's awesome. Happy for the Cubans on this one. ~nt 99th_Monkey Jan 2013 #1
Counting down to "accidental" cut of undersea cable in 3..., 2..., 1... nt OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #2
Why would they cut the cable their pals in Venezuela bought for them? MADem Jan 2013 #10
"Cuba has the second-worst Internet connectivity rate in the world, according to one study. MADem Jan 2013 #3
And Cuba is THE ONLY country suffering from the US extraterritorial embargo ... Mika Jan 2013 #4
Not true. See the comments elsewhere in this thread. You're shopping an old tale. nt MADem Jan 2013 #11
Nope. What you're saying isn't true. I won't say what you're shoveling. Mika Jan 2013 #51
Well, by not saying, you just did. Hey, snark and run is easier. I understand why MADem Jan 2013 #52
The lack of connectivity in Cuba has more to do with the American government than the Cuban Xithras Jan 2013 #5
No it doesn't. It has to do with the Cubans rejecting US comm links and using VZ ones instead. MADem Jan 2013 #8
The info you linked to disagrees with you: ronnie624 Jan 2013 #13
Interesting! Thank you for pointing it out. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #14
Apparently, some folks think no one is going to read the articles they post. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2013 #16
Apparently "some folks" DON'T read the articles that others post. MADem Jan 2013 #20
Why don't you post something that merits consideration? n/t ronnie624 Jan 2013 #22
You show your lack of maturity with comments like that. You can disagree without being childish. nt MADem Jan 2013 #33
Nice try....you didn't read the "but but" bit that followed, did you? MADem Jan 2013 #17
Cherry pick? ronnie624 Jan 2013 #18
How many times do you need to be told that Obama offered connectivity four years ago? MADem Jan 2013 #19
Lack of funding and poor state of the economy are probably factual, ronnie624 Jan 2013 #21
There is no talking to you. You make shit up and put words in people's mouths. MADem Jan 2013 #23
Typically bizarre. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2013 #24
Yes, good that you see that. Perhaps one day you'll engage in constructive conversation. nt MADem Jan 2013 #25
which OFFER did Obama make reorg Jan 2013 #26
Cuba preferred to deal w/Venezuela because they had the "currency" to pay Venezuela. MADem Jan 2013 #27
Gross's subterfuge on behalf of a USAID, was in violation of Cuban law. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #29
Well, the UN begs to differ. nt MADem Jan 2013 #30
What Did Alan Gross Do in Cuba? ronnie624 Jan 2013 #32
The US can "spring" Gross any day it wants by releasing the 5.Hideous they've kept them so long. n/t Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #34
And unlike Gross, ronnie624 Jan 2013 #37
Whole different story. They actually went to the FBI themselves, bringing their information Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #43
"Cuba: documents describe US "transition plans"" Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #45
Thanks. I'll definitely want to read that. n/t ronnie624 Jan 2013 #47
From your link: MADem Jan 2013 #36
Of course accusations of anti-Semitism are flying. So? ronnie624 Jan 2013 #39
They're "obviously nonsense" because YOU say so? MADem Jan 2013 #41
You've provided no evidence of anti-Semitism. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #44
He clearly was operating dishonestly when he entered the country. Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #54
The first link works perfectly. Link offers free registration: Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #31
The Foreign Policy link is the SECOND link. That one worked. Try reading before you lecture. nt MADem Jan 2013 #35
Not aware he was obese when he went to Cuba? Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #40
The man on the left is fat. The man on the right is emaciated. MADem Jan 2013 #42
you didn't answer my question reorg Jan 2013 #49
Thanks for throwing some light on the "offer". n/t ronnie624 Jan 2013 #50
How much clearer can I make it? I have provided links that reference it. MADem Jan 2013 #53
actually, no, you didn't provide links referencing an "offer" by Obama reorg Jan 2013 #55
Right, and improving that is the purpose of this project. Ash_F Jan 2013 #6
My chronology is fine. Cuba refused Obama's help to establish internet links four years ago. MADem Jan 2013 #9
It's still a three tier system. joshcryer Jan 2013 #7
Remind me Crepuscular Jan 2013 #12
because "HOW DARE THEY!" Ash_F Jan 2013 #15
The nomenklatura needs better porn jsr Jan 2013 #28
A Canadian company was installing internet cable from Florida to Cuba in the late 90s flamingdem Jan 2013 #38
They should properly prostrate themselves before the US government. ronnie624 Jan 2013 #46
Seven Actions Obama Should Take On Cuba Now Judi Lynn Jan 2013 #48
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