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In the discussion thread: Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell Reach Filibuster Reform Deal [View all]

Thu Jan 24, 2013, 12:57 PM

Politicub (5,855 posts)

41. Can someone explain in simple terms what the new rules are other than

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saying Harry Reid is sellout, etc. I get it that people are unhappy with him.

But back to the matter at hand.

My understanding was the existing filibuster rule required 60 votes for cloture. Is this still the case?

And if so, what has really changed?

I'm truly trying to figure this out. The reporting around this issue so far has been terrible.

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92 replies	Author	Time	Post
Harry Reid, Mitch McConnell Reach Filibuster Reform Deal [View all]	kpete	Jan 2013	OP
Reid needs to go.	Pab Sungenis	Jan 2013	#1
I said that right after the election to anyone that would listen. Damn few would. Pelosi isn't	Purveyor	Jan 2013	#10
I disagree. Nancy presided over the most productive House in U.S. history. What she got passed was	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#65
No shit. If you look up milquetoast in a dictionary, his picture is there.	harmonicon	Jan 2013	#48
Reid needs to be replaced.	NOVA_Dem	Jan 2013	#50
you have any idea how hard it is to negotiate with a turtle?	snooper2	Jan 2013	#91
but leaves a fundamental feature, the silent filibuster, in place	Botany	Jan 2013	#2
Silent Filibuster	Ian Iam	Jan 2013	#9
Watch how quick McConnell and company use the silent filibuster to block ..	Botany	Jan 2013	#15
And Feinstein was listed as one of the seven not on board with talking fillibuster...	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#22
Feinstein is notorious for proposing bills that sound Liberal...but, then go down.	KoKo	Jan 2013	#54
Hear, hear! Merkley for Senate Majority Leader.	Bette Noir	Jan 2013	#73
Like it had any chance of passing to begin with.	Dr_Scholl	Jan 2013	#30
Senate Dems will be blocking Sen. Feinstein's assault rifle ban.	hack89	Jan 2013	#45
I'm shocked...shocked I tell you that Harry folded like a Dollar General lawnchair. Suckers!!! eom	Purveyor	Jan 2013	#3
"Progressive senators working to dramatically alter Senate rules were defeated on Thursday"	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#4
No, just "Democrats."	Pab Sungenis	Jan 2013	#6
Old Plonkers	Ian Iam	Jan 2013	#5
Silver Lining	BlueDemKev	Jan 2013	#7
The GOP Ain't Gonna Win The Senate	november3rd	Jan 2013	#12
Why does the GOP have 30 governors then?	former9thward	Jan 2013	#18
Name the	John2	Jan 2013	#51
There are 20 Democrats and 12 Republicans up for re-election.	former9thward	Jan 2013	#53
They will eventually because...	BlueDemKev	Jan 2013	#21
I wish there was a Santa Claus too	Plucketeer	Jan 2013	#13
I am fine with having a "standing" filibuster	BlueDemKev	Jan 2013	#23
If they get the Senate they will do what Harry didn't	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#20
Yep, Reid just wants the ILLUSION that he wants real reform to have the Senate WORK again!	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#28
absolutely	grasswire	Jan 2013	#56
What do you base that on? They didn't change the rules when they had the majority.	24601	Jan 2013	#74
They threatened to get rid of it completely until we folded like a lawn chair.	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#80
Reid made the same threat - just words. It's unlikely that a majority of the Senators would give	24601	Jan 2013	#87
You don't appear to understand Republicans at all	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#89
They also thought screwing with the electoral college was a bad idea.	jeff47	Jan 2013	#86
What's to say	creeksneakers2	Jan 2013	#66
Yep, claiming it's an effort to be "bipartisan" is just a damn excuse!	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#67
I'm happy you recovered from that 2-year-long coma.	jeff47	Jan 2013	#77
weak sauce n/t	n2doc	Jan 2013	#8
Rec'd so that more people will see it. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#11
Better to blame the six democrats that wouldn't support	Still Sensible	Jan 2013	#14
Note that the article indicates that Reid was apparently upset the names of the 6 were released.	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#17
Huffington Post article had already "leaked" these names, though some of them don't match up...	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#29
Hot air Harry.	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#16
He didn't really have the votes. It was a bluff	The Second Stone	Jan 2013	#19
This message was self-deleted by its author	Matariki	Jan 2013	#24
Isn't our party's acting spectacular? I wonder what progressive measures	woo me with science	Jan 2013	#25
Salon article from '09 lays it out. Nothing has changed since then..	KoKo	Jan 2013	#58
So the Dems basically would not vote	Third Doctor	Jan 2013	#26
Fuck them. Acting like fucking losers.	GodlessBiker	Jan 2013	#27
Another possible OP title: "Democrats give voters the middle finger"	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#31
It Leaves All Of The Odorous Pieces In Place	DallasNE	Jan 2013	#32
BUT they can say "Filibuster reform passed!!! VICTORY"	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#34
It's the only way Democrats can make "lists of accomplishments" HATER!!	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#38
It's official, THE DEMOCRATS THAT PRETEND TO SUPPORT US WANT OBSTRUCTION TOO	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#33
I understand your frustration and I share it. But the part of your comment that I take exception	totodeinhere	Jan 2013	#39
You know, I hear that over-and-over-and-over again, an yet	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#42
Wow, you type faster and far more succinctly than I, but I tried to say much the same!	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#49
I don't disagree that the party has moved to the right.	totodeinhere	Jan 2013	#70
That is the line, but when they let the GOP in the tents "large back door"	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#47
I have enough knowledge of party history to know that while there were strong progressive elements	totodeinhere	Jan 2013	#69
I have learned you take away little of what that history teaches	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#72
It certainly would be ironic to see a real Democrat	NorthCarolina	Jan 2013	#40
That's what I've been saying.	Third Doctor	Jan 2013	#92
This sets the stage for another do nothing Congress.	old guy	Jan 2013	#35
Plausible deniability. Plausible deniability.	demjellyfish	Jan 2013	#36
What does the White House think of this crap?	Dustlawyer	Jan 2013	#37
Can someone explain in simple terms what the new rules are other than	Politicub	Jan 2013	#41
Still need 60 votes	jeff47	Jan 2013	#79
I don't get why the dems decided to go in this direction	Politicub	Jan 2013	#83
AFAICT, they're operating under the belief that Republicans won't take away the filibuster	jeff47	Jan 2013	#85
I could just easily scream BOOOOOOOO!!!! but would rather recommend taking action	alp227	Jan 2013	#43
Huh?	RickFromMN	Jan 2013	#44
Hot air, or more precisely scripted drama.	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#55
WTF???	Omaha Steve	Jan 2013	#46
If the Democrats in the Senate were in the minority this wouldn't be so bad	lunatica	Jan 2013	#52
One opportunity, have you been in a cave the last 4 years? they did it nearly EVERY	Dragonfli	Jan 2013	#60
Haha. Very funny comment.	xxxsdesdexxx	Jan 2013	#61
If Dems were a minority, I'd PREFER a talking filibuster, as Bernie Sanders HAS and WOULD!!!	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#63
Not Good Enough	supercats	Jan 2013	#57
So nothing substantive changes?	Fearless	Jan 2013	#59
Enjoy yourself Harry	tartan2	Jan 2013	#62
I wonder what would have happened if Sharon Angle had beaten him earlier...	cascadiance	Jan 2013	#64
Schumer's the one working his butt off to take over majority leader	jeff47	Jan 2013	#88
The silent fillibuster was the one thing I really wanted changed	abelenkpe	Jan 2013	#68
weak sauce....	mike_c	Jan 2013	#71
After thinking about this more, the Democrats will likely be in the minority in 2014.	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2013	#75
I have mistaken pity for love	libodem	Jan 2013	#76
hahahahaha... true believing suckers	fascisthunter	Jan 2013	#78
These so called Democrat Senators	JEB	Jan 2013	#81
if having integrity were easy, everybody would have it.	appacom	Jan 2013	#82
They blinked time & time & time again. How long hs it been since the Senate passed a budget?	24601	Jan 2013	#84
as if it weren't planned this way	fascisthunter	Jan 2013	#90

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