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How exciting. Reform without actual change. HERVEPA Jan 2013 #1
Isn't he saying he has the votes for the nuclear ("constitutional") option? NYC Liberal Jan 2013 #2
Seems to be the case... (nt) UrbScotty Jan 2013 #3
The nuclear option is just the method to get the "reform" passed. HERVEPA Jan 2013 #4
+1 davidwparker Jan 2013 #48
I thought the nuclear option was eliminating the filibuster entirely, not merrily Jan 2013 #18
Actually zipplewrath Jan 2013 #21
Thanks, but I am only more confused. merrily Jan 2013 #25
So he has 51 votes, but not for the talking filibuster then ? n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #5
“full talking filibuster” approach likely won’t happen because it “does not have 51 votes.” Dragonfli Jan 2013 #6
I recall that two of the remaining senators to get the talking filibuster were Boxer and Leahy... cascadiance Jan 2013 #7
"Reid likes handshake agreements from Republicans..." Volaris Jan 2013 #42
The deal seems to be that to obstruct, you must show you have 41 votes. bemildred Jan 2013 #8
I just called Boxer's office stopwastingmymoney Jan 2013 #9
caution : this reform looks good now, but we may have ample time for regrets. rampart Jan 2013 #10
You do know Senators are elcted by the entire state and not by district as Representatives are? Bandit Jan 2013 #11
If the Republicans take the Senate in 2014, they could just change the rules anyway. n/t PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #12
So let's do nothing for the next two years? n/t eggplant Jan 2013 #20
No, I was refuting the idea that the rule shouldn't be changed now PoliticAverse Jan 2013 #23
Heh. My bad. Let's agree to violently agree. ;-) n/t eggplant Jan 2013 #31
WE ALREADY HAVE REGRETS look at all the bills and appointments that have been silibustered leftyohiolib Jan 2013 #14
Now would be a really good time for Ruth Bader Ginsberg to announce her retirement bluestateguy Jan 2013 #13
If she wanted to retire, I think she would have done it during his first term, rather merrily Jan 2013 #17
Why should she retire? golfguru Jan 2013 #43
the more odest package looks like NOTHING. 41 votes to filibuster needed to kill robinlynne Jan 2013 #15
Because it puts the effort on the minority jeff47 Jan 2013 #32
interesting. robinlynne Jan 2013 #36
yes. that is the real significance. DCBob Jan 2013 #39
Then DO IT! wicket Jan 2013 #16
No shit. Democrats have folded so often, announcing their intentions to do something good yurbud Jan 2013 #40
YUP!!!! wicket Jan 2013 #41
....and sadly, Reid just proved me right. yurbud Jan 2013 #54
Then hurry up and do it EC Jan 2013 #19
BFD - No talking filibuster, no reform bfealk Jan 2013 #22
and you base this knowledge on? demwing Jan 2013 #49
Well, if the Republicans don't have 40 votes to maintain a filibuster, the blue dogs will help them. cascadiance Jan 2013 #55
Get it done. The talking filibuster is essential... Sunlight = Disinfectant Firebrand Gary Jan 2013 #24
This should be interesting. hrmjustin Jan 2013 #26
What a surprise. UnrepentantLiberal Jan 2013 #27
Reid: We have 51 votes Smilo Jan 2013 #28
An additional aspect of this change that many of you don't seem to recognize NinetySix Jan 2013 #29
We'll see when the vote comes up. sakabatou Jan 2013 #30
Weaken? It should read, "no longer grossly abused". nt Javaman Jan 2013 #33
McConnell is a jerkoff The Wizard Jan 2013 #34
Hope So!!!! healthnut7 Jan 2013 #35
Then do it! And let's get this show on the road! KansDem Jan 2013 #37
I don't even get why they allow it humbled_opinion Jan 2013 #38
What are ya waiting for Harry. Phlem Jan 2013 #44
It's Fitzmas all over again!!11 RandiFan1290 Jan 2013 #45
Harry is full of shit, as usual. russspeakeasy Jan 2013 #46
Called Senator Boxer and left a message asking her to support the "Talking" filibuster proposal. xxxsdesdexxx Jan 2013 #47
Reid is weak BigD_95 Jan 2013 #50
Sec. Clinton could lend him some "balls" she know how to stand up to the right awake Jan 2013 #51
Dear Harry. Anything weaker than what you have the votes for is trivial, and our problems aren't Tom Rinaldo Jan 2013 #52
Harry Reid declares 'just kidding'. nt NorthCarolina Jan 2013 #53
All Over Now. 4 More Years Of The Last 4 Years. blkmusclmachine Jan 2013 #56
Well that turned out to be a complete crock. nt Javaman Jan 2013 #57
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