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37. Murder has a specific meaning that does not include executions of those

Reply to harmonicon (Reply #36)

Fri Jan 18, 2013, 11:13 AM

Jan 2013

convicted by juries of heinous crimes.

Call it a moral outrage, fine.

But it's not murder.

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Amherst County murderer executed by electric chair [View all] jsr Jan 2013 OP

good. something longer and more painful would have been better samsingh Jan 2013 #1

especially if they let you watch it,eh? CBGLuthier Jan 2013 #5

probably would not want to samsingh Jan 2013 #6

If you can't watch it, then you shouldn't be for it obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #7

+1 Fearless Jan 2013 #9

Agreed 1983law Jan 2013 #30

i could watch it if that was required to execute that cold blooded killer samsingh Jan 2013 #44

Well, that's what he wanted. MrSlayer Jan 2013 #2

From every direction, no matter how you Control-Z Jan 2013 #3

So, this still goes on. harmonicon Jan 2013 #4

This guy needed to be killed. Had to die. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #11

I still don't think murder is the answer. harmonicon Jan 2013 #23

He wasn't murdered. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #24

The difference is? (nt) harmonicon Jan 2013 #28

The same difference between prison and kidnapping. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #31

So... harmonicon Jan 2013 #32

The point is that it's illegal to kidnap someone and lock them up in geek tragedy Jan 2013 #33

Would it be murder if it were legally sanctioned? harmonicon Jan 2013 #34

Murder is by definition illegal. It is not every killing that offends geek tragedy Jan 2013 #35

Illegal to whom? harmonicon Jan 2013 #36

Murder has a specific meaning that does not include executions of those geek tragedy Jan 2013 #37

So did Pol Pot murder civilians? CE5 Jan 2013 #38

Since they weren't convicted of crimes, there's an arguable case there. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #40

So, if there's "zero doubt" of someone being of a certain minority... harmonicon Jan 2013 #41

You're defining any killing as a murder, ergo stripping the word of any meaning. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #42

You're changing the subject. harmonicon Jan 2013 #43

Only if you strip the word 'murder' of any objective meaning geek tragedy Jan 2013 #45

Ok. So, you are implicitly answering those questions you've previously refused to? harmonicon Jan 2013 #46

To put it another way--was his execution a prosecutable crime according to the geek tragedy Jan 2013 #47

However, it is wrong. harmonicon Jan 2013 #48

Murder is a legal term, not a moral one. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #50

Life imprisonment is also inherently wrong, now that you mention it. harmonicon Jan 2013 #55

Well, for that matter can we say the anti-choicers are wrong when geek tragedy Jan 2013 #56

Come on, this is just pussyfooting. harmonicon Jan 2013 #58

Those are prosecutable crimes. nt geek tragedy Jan 2013 #59

Pfft. How so?!?! harmonicon Jan 2013 #63

If you're trying to argue that legality is irrelevant to the definition geek tragedy Jan 2013 #64

What I'm asking is "what law?" harmonicon Jan 2013 #65

Lynching was a murder. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #66

To the victor go the spoils, unless it's lynching? harmonicon Jan 2013 #67

If it is state sanctioned, then it is still illegal, even if it is not considered "murder." Socal31 Jan 2013 #71

The so-called "government" of Cambodia at the time was a gang of barbarians tabasco Jan 2013 #62

Merely the path used to get there... LanternWaste Jan 2013 #68

hahaha... harmonicon Jan 2013 #69

I don't think solitary confinement for the rest of his life would have added much more significant.. Tom Ripley Jan 2013 #29

57 Countries actively use the Death Penalty MicaelS Jan 2013 #19

And every one of them is wrong. n/t Ed Suspicious Jan 2013 #26

Ahh theater. Fearless Jan 2013 #8

Barbaric, and we are part of a Rogue's Gallery that allows it obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #10

This is one of those rare cases where it was necessary. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #12

There is no "rare case" -- someone is either pro or anti DP obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #13

In this case, the only effective deterrent was incapacitation. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #16

It's still state-santctioned murder obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #18

Again, murder is a legal term that does not apply here. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #25

I'm opposed to the death penalty... WestCoastLib Jan 2013 #14

It is state-sanctioned murder obamanut2012 Jan 2013 #15

Murder is the unlawful killing of another human being geek tragedy Jan 2013 #17

So you're okay with the U.S. being the only country in the western hemisphere that has the DP? BuddhaGirl Jan 2013 #49

I'm against the DP in most cases. geek tragedy Jan 2013 #52

in other words, you're okay with our country's unevolved status BuddhaGirl Jan 2013 #54

No, but when the person has shown a likelihood they will kill again geek tragedy Jan 2013 #57

no, that is what prison is for BuddhaGirl Jan 2013 #60

Did you read the article? geek tragedy Jan 2013 #61

yes - he belongs in solitary, or whatever BuddhaGirl Jan 2013 #72

I didn't say that I thought he deserved the death penalty WestCoastLib Jan 2013 #20

It is NOT "State Sanctioned Murder". MicaelS Jan 2013 #21

I am strongly against the death penalty, but absolutely hate the phrase "State Sanctioned Murder" Tom Ripley Jan 2013 #27

Instead of Suicide-by-Cop, this was Suicide-by-Jury? n/t Ian David Jan 2013 #51

And so it continues...... zabet Jan 2013 #22

+1 BuddhaGirl Jan 2013 #53

He requested to be put to death and chose the electric chair - lynne Jan 2013 #39

90 seconds? treestar Jan 2013 #70