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In the discussion thread: Sen. Al Franken Raises Doubts About Support For Assault Weapons Ban [View all]

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Thu Jan 17, 2013, 10:16 AM

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21. Midwestern Senators have to be careful on this.

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170 replies	Author	Time	Post
Sen. Al Franken Raises Doubts About Support For Assault Weapons Ban [View all]	DonViejo	Jan 2013	OP
WWPWD?	SHRED	Jan 2013	#1
Somewhat serious answer?	karynnj	Jan 2013	#3
time for Minnesotans to get on the phone I guess ...	rtassi	Jan 2013	#4
Indeed.	Undaunted	Jan 2013	#66
Sounds like many of them already have do so	Freddie Stubbs	Jan 2013	#78
yes	2pooped2pop	Jan 2013	#103
He's not Paul Wellstone	WI_DEM	Jan 2013	#8
I think because Paul was a friend, mentor and inspiration to Al.	progressoid	Jan 2013	#36
Wellstone would do what Franken is doing: listening to constituents	johnfunk	Jan 2013	#11
I wish posters would quote the original source	OKNancy	Jan 2013	#2
I agree	davidpdx	Jan 2013	#6
I usually do post the link to the original story, Nancy...	DonViejo	Jan 2013	#7
I know... you are a valued poster	OKNancy	Jan 2013	#17
There are about a dozen Democratic Senators that may oppose the AWB	hack89	Jan 2013	#5
Don't support AWB? No money from me next time, Al. Get it from your CONSERVATIVE supporters.	MotherPetrie	Jan 2013	#9
Battle Stations! TOLL FREE!	calimary	Jan 2013	#10
Actually, "our" politicians	dotymed	Jan 2013	#12
Good point -- actually doing the job HIS VOTERS sent him there to do. An anomaly, sadly.	gateley	Jan 2013	#35
+1000 nt	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#82
Agreed. Good post.	WhoWoodaKnew	Jan 2013	#134
That's the problem. Many politicians aren't ready to stand up for what is right...	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#162
Maybe he just thinks federal bans of any sort are a bad idea	Ter	Jan 2013	#13
ATF or FDA?	DreWId	Jan 2013	#74
IMO, yes	Ter	Jan 2013	#131
That really surprises me!	daschess1987	Jan 2013	#14
How DARE he be undecided	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#15
Well said. Thanks.	russspeakeasy	Jan 2013	#28
As far as I can see it isn't saying one way or another /nt	still_one	Jan 2013	#16
Im sorry, but I do not agree	James48	Jan 2013	#18
Well, maybe then	butterflygirl	Jan 2013	#45
I'm with ya, James.	appal_jack	Jan 2013	#52
The ban was just SO AWFUL when it was in effect!	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#19
LOL. I bet it affects gun stores. Without "assault/tactical" weapons to pique yahoos' interests,	Hoyt	Jan 2013	#22
Perhaps he doesn't want to commit political suicide	hack89	Jan 2013	#24
Perhaps he doesn't want to commit political suicide	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#25
This line of thinking is why we got DOMA and the Iraq War...	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#161
The question is not awfulness.	krispos42	Jan 2013	#38
Now, every person that warned that Obama would be moving on gun control once he was elected for his	AlbertCat	Jan 2013	#50
I'm afraid it's not just the nut fringe minority	NickB79	Jan 2013	#137
So: We Should Tailor Our Policies Down To The Level Of Gun Activist-Spawned Paranoia?	Paladin	Jan 2013	#141
No, that's not what I'm suggesting	NickB79	Jan 2013	#142
Let Me Stop You, Right There.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#145
If they don't like/respect the law, lock them up for breaking it. Simple. nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#150
The for profit prison industry thanks you for your support	FrodosPet	Jan 2013	#160
So you don't believe in the rule of law? nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#164
I believe in the rule of law	FrodosPet	Jan 2013	#165
1000s of right wing gun nuts thank you for your opinions. nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#166
Well done. AWB ban only imposes cosmetic differences -- does not affect lethality.	immoderate	Jan 2013	#55
why does ANY congressman think assault weapons are fine? Are we in a civil war now?	wordpix	Jan 2013	#20
Midwestern Senators have to be careful on this.	JVS	Jan 2013	#21
Is there some benign purpose for assault weapons that I am not aware of?	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#23
It is merely a rifle	hack89	Jan 2013	#26
A Bushmaster AR-15 .223 Is A "Hunting Rifle".......	Paladin	Jan 2013	#29
Why not? Put a 5 round mag on it as required by law	hack89	Jan 2013	#31
Your side is the one that's hung up on cosmetics.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#37
Would you ban the Mini-14? nt	hack89	Jan 2013	#39
Aw, A Feeble Attempt At A Trick Question. How Sweet.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#47
Not a trick question. Merely shows the futility of banning weapons based on appearance.	hack89	Jan 2013	#56
I like the wooden stock	sir pball	Jan 2013	#48
I use my AR-15 for shooting coyotes	nick of time	Jan 2013	#33
That is incredibly dangerous...and expensive.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#63
I've had the same box of .223 for years now.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#65
Claims that the AR-15 is used for hunting is NRA propaganda.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#67
Call bullshit all you want.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#70
I already answered your question.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#73
Have you even read my posts?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#76
He very well could be a troll, but nothing he is saying so far is wrong.	Socal31	Jan 2013	#136
The .223 Rem. round is ideal	NickB79	Jan 2013	#139
A .22LR is a piss-poor choice for shooting coyotes	NickB79	Jan 2013	#138
I have never been concerned about an actual AWB passing	hack89	Jan 2013	#34
What's So Surprising About This?	Paladin	Jan 2013	#41
I have been hearing that for years - not concerned	hack89	Jan 2013	#42
Yeah, Keep That Optimistic Attitude, By All Means.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#46
You sound like those folks railing against Roe v Wade.	hack89	Jan 2013	#58
Tell You What: Let's Talk About What I DON'T Sound Like.	Paladin	Jan 2013	#95
Yet I bet you and I see eye to eye on many progressive issues	hack89	Jan 2013	#98
There you had a nice, respectful post going, something potentially constructive.....	Paladin	Jan 2013	#105
You really work hard at being offended, don't you?	hack89	Jan 2013	#106
gee, you say that to all the girls	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#154
I unfortunately have been known to sink to the level of my opponents	hack89	Jan 2013	#155
but what would you have to post about?	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#156
Does it matter?	hack89	Jan 2013	#157
It is not "merely a rifle."	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#64
There are many other rounds that are much more powerful then a 5.56mm	hack89	Jan 2013	#69
You don't put a 30-round magazine on a deer rifle.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#71
So implement a ban on large mags. nt	hack89	Jan 2013	#72
That too.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#75
So you want to ban all semi-automatic rifles?	hack89	Jan 2013	#77
What do you mean "not military style"? nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#83
There are many civilian semi-automatic weapons	hack89	Jan 2013	#85
100-year-old rifles are not the problem. nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#89
100 year old semi auto rifles work the same way as a modern semi auto rifle.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#92
They don't shoot with the same energy nor can you pop a 30-round mag in them.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#94
Not quite a 100 years old.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#99
That's talking about machine guns.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#100
Whatever.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#102
Link(s)? nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#108
Here.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#110
Seeing that it's fed by a "detachable box magazine," it should be illegal, IMO. nt	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#112
I won't disagree with you there.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#113
Did you happen to go to the pdf manual for that rifle?	Prog_gun_owner	Jan 2013	#146
I see you joined DU to troll this post.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#148
"They don't shoot with the same energy"	EX500rider	Jan 2013	#104
"BS"? Seriously? Well, here's your link. Can't believe you didn't already know about this....	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#107
Did I say it wasn't doable?	EX500rider	Jan 2013	#116
All assault rifles should be illegal for civilians to possess.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#118
That part is regulated as a machine gun	NickB79	Jan 2013	#140
My step dad took a nail file to a 1940's German Luger Pistol.	Prog_gun_owner	Jan 2013	#147
Research the Remington Model 8 semi-auto rifle	NickB79	Jan 2013	#144
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Prog_gun_owner	Jan 2013	#149
I am talking about the technology being 100 years old.	hack89	Jan 2013	#96
You are better off target shooting with 22lr and hunting with 30-06	Ash_F	Jan 2013	#120
I disagree	hack89	Jan 2013	#121
OK, then use .222 with the bolt action rifles with which they are common	Ash_F	Jan 2013	#122
It is perfect for target shooting and hunting	hack89	Jan 2013	#123
Well for one thing, .223 doesn't have the killing power to bring down game(Deer and bigger) humanley	Ash_F	Jan 2013	#124
It is a varmint round - not everyone hunts larger game.	hack89	Jan 2013	#125
It's popular because of military fetishism	Ash_F	Jan 2013	#126
Every rifle is basically a military rifle at heart	hack89	Jan 2013	#127
it is also popular	Duckhunter935	Jan 2013	#130
Self defense is about killing people	krispos42	Jan 2013	#43
?????	bongbong	Jan 2013	#53
You should always keep the possibility of lethal force present in your mind	NickB79	Jan 2013	#143
Not a gun advocate (wish we could live like UK or Japan) but nevertheless feel that you make good	grantcart	Jan 2013	#158
I feel the following.	krispos42	Jan 2013	#159
That's the thing about the Constitution - rights aren't about needs. Why does any individual need	24601	Jan 2013	#152
Perhaps he wants to see the specifics of the bill before making a decision	Marrah_G	Jan 2013	#27
What you said.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#32
Sounds like Al is considering a run for higher office.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#30
Sounds like he simply values his job	sir pball	Jan 2013	#51
Either way. As Rachel Maddow would say, "He is triangulating his position."	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#57
Or simply trying to keep his current one. He is up for reelection next year.	Freddie Stubbs	Jan 2013	#79
That's his choice but disappointing.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#84
These new restriction are going to die the House anyway, so why	Freddie Stubbs	Jan 2013	#87
I think it's called leadership.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#88
If enough Democrats in the Senate do this, there will be new 'leadership' in the Senate in 2015	Freddie Stubbs	Jan 2013	#90
This is a bit circular, isn't it?	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#91
But what if his constituents are against what he believes in.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#93
Are they? Was Al Franken elected because he is known to be a capitulating centrist?	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#97
But that doesn't answer.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#101
He is under no such obligation.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#109
He's under no such obligation to vote how his constituents want him to vote?	nick of time	Jan 2013	#111
Leaders lead. They don't take polls to make decisions.	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#114
You're seriously saying that elected leaders have no obligation	nick of time	Jan 2013	#115
Not all the time. How many times have I said this?	Buzz Clik	Jan 2013	#117
Ok.	nick of time	Jan 2013	#119
Sounds like everyone should contact Sen. Franken. nt	Pale Blue Dot	Jan 2013	#40
The message I'm getting from the pro assault weapons posters here is that	LibDemAlways	Jan 2013	#44
+1	forestpath	Jan 2013	#54
An AWB ban does not make children safer in the classroom.	immoderate	Jan 2013	#59
This is why an AWB is tricky business	Puzzledtraveller	Jan 2013	#86
Supporters of that ban need to be better educated on the topic	madville	Jan 2013	#128
I have a handgun. I bought a 20 and a 30 round mag before the first AWB	immoderate	Jan 2013	#129
That's the most depressing thing I've heard so far today.	SunSeeker	Jan 2013	#49
The part of the effort that bothers me is the regulation around mental health	Android3.14	Jan 2013	#60
Yes, it is very creepy.	amandabeech	Jan 2013	#163
Sen Franken has a lot of nerve	Lurks Often	Jan 2013	#61
Franken Clarifies: I Support A Reinstatement Of Assault Weapons Ban	jeff47	Jan 2013	#62
Mr. SOPA moron himself. nt	Comrade_McKenzie	Jan 2013	#68
Not quite. His spokesperson didn't	mzmolly	Jan 2013	#80
Vague term, better to regulate actual things...	Deep13	Jan 2013	#81
i thought he was more enlightened than that	samsingh	Jan 2013	#132
SamSingh...	DonViejo	Jan 2013	#133
oh - thank you - he is more enlightened!	samsingh	Jan 2013	#135
My support for Al Franken is at an end, and I will phone/email my MN friends. nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#151
I'll make sure to call Franken on Tuesday	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#153
Et tu, senator Franken?	Politicub	Jan 2013	#167
see post 132 above...	DonViejo	Jan 2013	#168
Has Franken lost his mind?! nt	SylviaD	Jan 2013	#169
It is a badly conceived law that won't accomplish a reduction in gun violence	aikoaiko	Mar 2013	#170

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