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Fri Jan 27, 2012, 04:29 PM

101. So, punching holes in a 2-dimensional image is morally worse than burning a 3-dimensional one?

Nobody has been charged with a crime for the incident discussed in the OP.

Freedom of speech includes the right to be a douche bag. The Secret Service certainly has a responsibility to, as is stated in the article, determine the intent of the people involved. All they have to say is that they didn't intend to do any actual harm to the President.

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171 replies	Author	Time	Post
Shot-Up Image of President Draws a Secret Service Inquiry [View all]	alp227	Jan 2012	OP
God, they're stupid.	Ecumenist	Jan 2012	#1
Refer back to the thread on low intelligence of conservatives	Gman	Jan 2012	#13
Oh, I didn't realize that the 2006 movie, "Death of a President" was a right wing production	24601	Jan 2012	#109
WTF are you talking about? First of all, it was MOCKUMENTARY NOT	Ecumenist	Jan 2012	#112
good	LostinRed	Jan 2012	#2
I do...going back to Reagan. Then again it was mostly dart boards	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#22
I seem to remember episodes of the sitcom 'Murphy Brown'	BrendaBrick	Jan 2012	#82
Murphy Brown's dartboard changed constantly	csziggy	Mar 2012	#167
This post was hidden by jury decision.	Cliffy44	Feb 2012	#163
Eight dickheads in need of an asskicking	madokie	Jan 2012	#3
if they do get jail time- the ass-kickings are certain.	stlsaxman	Jan 2012	#6
Their combined IQ is 7, and their combined pee pee length is 5 inches.	NYC_SKP	Jan 2012	#18
"Nice guns. Sorry about your pee pees." n/t	Beartracks	Jan 2012	#137
Hyperbole	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#26
Just Wondering, Mr. "Progressive":	Paladin	Jan 2012	#52
Just wondering if you have taken reading comprehension again	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#56
I think it's more like false equivalence than defending it	dreamnightwind	Jan 2012	#126
Truly. It's not what our side does.	calimary	Jan 2012	#129
Yeah, it's a seed you don't want planted	dreamnightwind	Jan 2012	#131
Just members of the right wing "gun culture" having a big old time. Screw em.	Hoyt	Jan 2012	#92
Check your grammar, "Professor." n/t	SunSeeker	Jan 2012	#110
Thank you	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#115
Gunstremists.	onehandle	Jan 2012	#4
The teabaggin' kkkluckers seem to forget something...........	TxVietVet	Jan 2012	#5
Dumbasses n/t	deutsey	Jan 2012	#7
Love the guy on the right, with the semi-automatic...	secondwind	Jan 2012	#8
Yep. "JUST DO IT"	emulatorloo	Jan 2012	#83
I'm wondering when the guy on the left is gonna shoot his own foot off.	caveat_imperator	Jan 2012	#86
or the guy with pistol shooting the guy next to him	ThomThom	Jan 2012	#88
"... LET this get posted"? Dumb Facebook question ...	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2012	#9
Pictures have been posted	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#10
You can have your account settings not allow that	obamanut2012	Jan 2012	#14
Posting on your wall is one thing	rocktivity	Jan 2012	#48
You should be able to delete them. If you can't delete them,	MH1	Jan 2012	#72
fixed (NT)	The Wizard	Jan 2012	#80
You have to approve photos posted to your wall by others	obamanut2012	Jan 2012	#12
You can post on other's pages	Mz Pip	Jan 2012	#46
Is the idiot on the left about to shoot their foot off? It looks like it. n/t	fasttense	Jan 2012	#11
Yep- that's bunch of real macho he-man badasses right there...	LeftinOH	Jan 2012	#15
DU-Friendly adjectives fail me.	HughBeaumont	Jan 2012	#16
Seven losers toting deadly weapons	TheCowsCameHome	Jan 2012	#17
The fact that it's a tee shirt implies they did violence to an Obama supporter.	TalkingDog	Jan 2012	#19
Look at them. If any ONE man every confronted them, they'd run like babies....unless, of course,	judesedit	Jan 2012	#20
Just one more reason NOT to vote for a conservative. Need I say more?	judesedit	Jan 2012	#21
There is no such thing as a conservative anymore	INdemo	Feb 2012	#164
These are exhibits 1-8 (including the jag-off with the camera)...	Moostache	Jan 2012	#49
If they want to shoot guns so badly, send them to Afghanistan. Tired of these	Liberal_Stalwart71	Jan 2012	#23
Or Somalia.	calimary	Jan 2012	#127
These	Madmiddle	Jan 2012	#24
This has been going on for multiple presidents and other public figures since I can remember	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#25
What horseshit - this is not "political speech" It's gun nut douchebaggery	jpak	Jan 2012	#30
Its right wing nuts behaving stupidly, but under the law, its political speech	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#32
disagree, firearms ARE a key point here. The numbskulls are holding guns with pic of shot up Pres.O	wordpix	Jan 2012	#39
Not from a legal perspective or a practical one...	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#42
however, this being AZ, this should not be taken lightly IMO	wordpix	Jan 2012	#50
There is no tie to Giffords. It could have happened in any state in the union	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#55
I did not state there was a tie to Giffords, I said it was AZ (land of the gun-toting nutcases)	wordpix	Jan 2012	#64
My point is that it is AZ has nothing to do with it	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#65
This post was hidden by jury decision.	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#146
It's not bigotry when I read news from AZ & draw my own conclusions	wordpix	Jan 2012	#158
Apologizing for teabagger douchebaggery is just plain stupid	jpak	Jan 2012	#53
Then you should quit doing it	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#59
lol	jpak	Jan 2012	#76
Professor,	kurtzapril4	Jan 2012	#123
douch	stonecutter357	Jan 2012	#99
Then you need to brush up on your "legal and practical" skills.	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2012	#139
There will be no investigation since there is no threat	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#142
I guess your crystal ball was on the fritz...	Hassin Bin Sober	Feb 2012	#165
Somewhat surprising	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#166
If I posted a picture of myself holding a gun and a shot-up orange juice bottle...	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#116
Is your orange juice bottle a SS protectee?	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2012	#144
Is a t-shirt a Secret Service protectee?	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#148
not horseshit.	onenote	Jan 2012	#91
Please provide examples of this happening with previous presidents	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#78
Does a bunch of irate Canadians throwing shoes at a burning effigy of George W. Bush count?	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#96
Show me an example of a bullet-ridden image of Bush, where the Secret Service did not investigate	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#98
So, punching holes in a 2-dimensional image is morally worse than burning a 3-dimensional one?	slackmaster	Jan 2012	#101
Actually I asked for a data since I could not find one	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#106
Lots of things are legal, but best left undone. Like a bunch of punks shooting off their weapons.	Hoyt	Jan 2012	#94
You are letting your weapons phobia interfere with a marvelous PR opportunity for Obama	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#105
Your love of weapons is keeping you from getting outraged at this kind of junk, that is too common.	Hoyt	Jan 2012	#111
Hardly, I see this as an opportunity	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#117
Well it would be nice to see a little outrage, rather than defense of a bunch of punks blasting away	Hoyt	Jan 2012	#118
So urinating or defecating on it would have been okay by you just as long as it wasn't firearms?	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#120
I imagine the difference between what may be changed	LanternWaste	Mar 2012	#168
What other of our constitutional freedoms, liberties, and rights would you like to see "changed"	ProgressiveProfessor	Mar 2012	#171
Just by looking at the pic...	Wait Wut	Jan 2012	#27
Prediction:	Ken Burch	Jan 2012	#28
No doubt claiming that they are "progressive" too ...	Nihil	Jan 2012	#40
GOP/NRA gun nut thugs	jpak	Jan 2012	#29
Painting with sort of a broad brush aren't we?n/t	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#71
OK - I will redefine them - teabagger douchebag GOP/NRA gun nuts	jpak	Jan 2012	#75
Nope. Rather bigoted in my humble opinion. n/t	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#77
The bigots are holding the guns	jpak	Jan 2012	#93
Exactly. And bigots and guns seem to go together in this country.	Hoyt	Jan 2012	#95
Tell that to the Pink Pistols	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#143
Where did you read anything about that, not in the OP's article?n/t	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#135
I imagine if we look closely enough, we can find bigotry anywhere	LanternWaste	Mar 2012	#169
What's bigoted about a group of armed white men shooting up a photo of a black president?	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#100
Sorry, but I won't leap to	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#136
Do you deny that most of the anti-Obama hatred is racially motivated?	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#138
Yes, I do. I believe, for the most part, it is politically, not racily motovated. n/t	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#150
You have got to be fucking kidding me.	Hugabear	Jan 2012	#157
If this would have happened when Bush was President ..wouldn't these idiots be in jail already?	INdemo	Jan 2012	#31
No	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#34
Yes - People were sentenced to jail time for far less during the Bush regime	jpak	Jan 2012	#35
And you have on point citiations for that?	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#36
I do recall someone getting sentenced to nearly three years in jail for making a reference	rocktivity	Jan 2012	#41
Do you have a citation in context?	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#43
Found a link to the story that works.	rocktivity	Jan 2012	#45
Then post it	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#47
This what he was busted for	rocktivity	Jan 2012	#51
Interesting read	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#61
yes, a man made a joke about a burning bush	newspeak	Jan 2012	#58
The link above was an interesing read about that	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#62
Um - a MOVIE was made about Bush getting shot.	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2012	#87
There was also a movie made about the earth being smashed by an asteroid...	Hassin Bin Sober	Jan 2012	#140
Yeah...let anyone make a faux documentary about Obama being shot	Dreamer Tatum	Jan 2012	#152
Are you kidding?	Spirochete	Jan 2012	#125
Is there something in the air or water	COLGATE4	Jan 2012	#33
AZ does appear to be a wingnut magnet	peace frog	Jan 2012	#37
Terrorists.	Loge23	Jan 2012	#38
If Bush was in office...	SpankMe	Jan 2012	#44
"And a police officer willfully let this get posted on his Facebook?" Do we know that?	yellowcanine	Jan 2012	#54
More TeaTerror	Ian David	Jan 2012	#57
Not very good shots either, from the looks of it. nt	mistertrickster	Jan 2012	#60
And as others have pointed out, their gun safety is not so hot either.	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#63
Loughners in training. Giffords' father said if she got hurt, it'd be by a Teabagger, since the...	freshwest	Jan 2012	#66
Amen.	2kevlane	Jan 2012	#85
Thanks. Like your profile. Welcome to DU.	freshwest	Jan 2012	#124
The bigger the gun, the smaller the penis. nt	bathroommonkey76	Jan 2012	#67
And just how would you know that? Just curious is all. n/t	Johnson20	Jan 2012	#89
Arizona	MountainLaurel	Jan 2012	#68
"trip to the ranch"????	GoldenOldie	Jan 2012	#69
Gee, I wonder how Nike feels about all that promotion (the green shirt on the doofus to the right)?	SoapBox	Jan 2012	#70
So will Jan Brewer shake her claw in the faces of these violent gun thugs?	NBachers	Jan 2012	#73
Looks like they're going rogue	JJW	Jan 2012	#74
Not sure whether to rec this for its sheer stupidity or hide it because its so sickening. eom	tawadi	Jan 2012	#79
Now I really don't feel safe	DreamSmoker	Jan 2012	#81
Minor point on CA law	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#108
Damn glad I don't live there.	2kevlane	Jan 2012	#84
Hell I won't even travel there...	bayareaboy	Jan 2012	#90
sorry	BVL1994	Jan 2012	#103
Douchebags. I hope the SS kicks their ass and takes names.	Initech	Jan 2012	#97
Hey Tough Guys? So What was the Point/message?	fascisthunter	Jan 2012	#102
These dittoheads have never known a time without hate radio.	Faygo Kid	Jan 2012	#104
It's just today's threat of violence by conservatives..	dsharp88	Jan 2012	#107
God. This is frightening! When will this incendiary rhetoric stop?! haven't we had enough tragedy?	tropicanarose	Jan 2012	#113
How about this?	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#114
Nope. Try looking up the definition of "burned in effigy". Here are a couple:	That Guy 888	Jan 2012	#132
Distinction without a difference?	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#134
You are trying to compare the "shooters" to people who burned bush in effigy, right?	That Guy 888	Jan 2012	#145
I'm pretty sure that shooting a picture of someone...	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#147
Try reading my posts a little more carefully	That Guy 888	Jan 2012	#151
Try reading history a liitle more carefully	ProgressiveProfessor	Jan 2012	#153
Professor, please cite your historical evidence	That Guy 888	Jan 2012	#161
It seems way more threatening to those who might WEAR such a shirt	Nevernose	Jan 2012	#119
this is a real problem	gopiscrap	Jan 2012	#121
This post was hidden by jury decision.	jake123	Jan 2012	#122
I'm worried about the guy on the right.	Bette Noir	Jan 2012	#128
Yep, bad idea	Zippydo77	Jan 2012	#130
for those who say both sides do it	newspeak	Jan 2012	#133
They should have read the story of Sir Anthony Babbington	SemperEadem	Jan 2012	#141
Looks like someone's getting a visit from the NSA.	Fearless	Jan 2012	#149
Huh? What would the NSA have to do with this? n/t	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#154
This message was self-deleted by its author	Fearless	Jan 2012	#156
I meant Secret Service.	Fearless	Jan 2012	#159
Ah. I thought my alphabet soup had run away with itself for a minute. n/t	PavePusher	Jan 2012	#160
Wsn't there someone back in the Shrub Era...	BiggJawn	Jan 2012	#155
That's sick! n/t	New7up	Jan 2012	#162
Yikes....These kids would do better by their families, and themselves if they	midnight	Mar 2012	#170

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