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Wed Jan 16, 2013, 07:39 PM

Ed Suspicious (1,254 posts)

2. Top executives want a larger labor pool to further commoditize labor. n/t

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147 replies	Author	Time	Post
U.S. business executives call for raising retirement age to 70 [View all]	IDemo	Jan 2013	OP
It should be lowered to 55	AlphaCentauri	Jan 2013	#1
They must be thinking about themselves because...	JoeBlowToo	Jan 2013	#4
When do they ever think of anyone BUT themselves?	Jackpine Radical	Jan 2013	#51
While your idea is much better than 70, it would not surprise me for these	indepat	Jan 2013	#19
They want to get rid of Social Security because that way they don't have to pay half of	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#25
close but not quite	Locrian	Jan 2013	#137
It should be lowered to birth	Jack Rabbit	Jan 2013	#43
Top executives want a larger labor pool to further commoditize labor. n/t	Ed Suspicious	Jan 2013	#2
Exactly	Fearless	Jan 2013	#9
And on the other side of the equation, medicare is strengthened as youger, (actuarially) healthier	Snarkoleptic	Jan 2013	#45
Bingo !!!!	orpupilofnature57	Jan 2013	#11
Nope. It's the first salvo in abolishing Social Security	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#28
Workers pay it all because they are the ones who generate the profits of any business.	iemitsu	Jan 2013	#106
+1	TXDemoGal	Jan 2013	#117
It's about the money. Period. The FICA tax.	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#131
FICA tax IS really expensive, take it from a small employer	wordpix	Jan 2013	#144
It doesn't quite work that way	adieu	Jan 2013	#47
They don't hire older workers. They don't even consider older workers to be part of the labor pool.	JDPriestly	Jan 2013	#120
Exactly. Then when the unemployment rate shoots up, they'll blame Obama	Doctor_J	Jan 2013	#128
Great idea	Steerpike	Jan 2013	#3
and	bluedave	Jan 2013	#124
just stupid	OKNancy	Jan 2013	#5
It takes a bunch of bodies to stay aloft on	orpupilofnature57	Jan 2013	#6
You can find a list of all The Business Roundtable members here...	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#7
Plenty of them were ailed out by the public a few years ago	daleo	Jan 2013	#115
Thanks for the list.	go west young man	Jan 2013	#116
Bullshit. The 66 year olds will lose their jobs to younger, lower paid	gateley	Jan 2013	#8
I think the 66 year olds will have long ago lost their jobs to younger employees. Lower the age to	rhett o rick	Jan 2013	#21
I agree! Never happen, though.	gateley	Jan 2013	#42
That had better fall on deaf ears.	djean111	Jan 2013	#10
Yes, you can say fuck them. nt	awoke_in_2003	Jan 2013	#24
Are they revising their policies about hiring workers over 60?	Courtesy Flush	Jan 2013	#12
Safety net programs including Social Security and Medicare are likely to take center stage.	Skittles	Jan 2013	#13
Those same companies lay off employees	mrsadm	Jan 2013	#14
+1000 nt	abelenkpe	Jan 2013	#84
Sounds good, because there are tons of jobs available for older Americans they won't take. n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#15
I say	nineteen50	Jan 2013	#16
Easy for them to say, those batards!	pinboy3niner	Jan 2013	#17
They should take their recommendation and just baguette	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#55
You can try to reason with them, but they'll just crêpe on you. nt	pinboy3niner	Jan 2013	#65
...and then you'll be toast	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#73
Okay, okay, I surrender	pinboy3niner	Jan 2013	#86
They think the workers just loaf around all day anyway	NBachers	Jan 2013	#96
...sitting on their buns	jberryhill	Jan 2013	#98
rolling on the flour laughing	pinboy3niner	Jan 2013	#122
This really does call for the French solution	FiveGoodMen	Jan 2013	#18
You mean the French solution..........................	BobbyBoring	Jan 2013	#46
You mean "The French disConnection?"	KansDem	Jan 2013	#50
That's the one!	FiveGoodMen	Jan 2013	#53
It takes too long to build one of those.	DocMac	Jan 2013	#133
I bow to your pragmatism	FiveGoodMen	Jan 2013	#140
The Business Roundtable and the faithful news media began their assault today on SS and Medicare	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#20
At the same time, they discriminate against anybody over 50	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#22
NO to the Business Roundtable!	trayfoot	Jan 2013	#23
The Business Roundtable is also heavily involved	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#27
The first move should be to deduct social security from EVERY dollar earned. nt	humblebum	Jan 2013	#26
+++1	patrice	Jan 2013	#34
Funny how these idiots trying to gut Soc. Sec. are NOT pressed on this issue by M$M.	99th_Monkey	Jan 2013	#71
It should be lowered to 62	Renew Deal	Jan 2013	#29
Push for 55 - know why? Compromise is 62 between	closeupready	Jan 2013	#103
Bastards.	DavidDvorkin	Jan 2013	#30
To the Business Roundtable	rusty fender	Jan 2013	#31
Dogwhistle for "Euthanize the elderly". They can't actually SAY that but they know there are NO jobs	patrice	Jan 2013	#32
Elders & Disabled, do NOT underestimate the political pressure supporting Social Darwinism.	patrice	Jan 2013	#33
Elderly and disabled had better watch out for the supporters of Social Darwinism.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#49
I have been running into them with the rise of Libertarians & anarchists around what was the Occupy,	patrice	Jan 2013	#56
It's too bad we have to define ourselves these ways - your analysis is painfully correct.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#63
Hey, I'm willing to consider them otherwise if they were to choose that and, if there's a good	patrice	Jan 2013	#69
People still will retire at 62, but with less benefits, and I believe thats the result they're	bloomington-lib	Jan 2013	#35
Excellent point. It's really a way to cut most people's benefits. n/t	PoliticAverse	Jan 2013	#89
Airlines	notundecided	Jan 2013	#36
Has Obama ever stood up against the corporate feudal lords for us serfs?	forestpath	Jan 2013	#37
Airlines	notundecided	Jan 2013	#38
The guys who man a desk are telling workers they need to WORK harder, longer. BULLpucky!	CarmanK	Jan 2013	#39
They are global corporations not US	Cynicus Emeritus	Jan 2013	#40
Oh, why go to all that work when a firing squad is faster and cheaper?	valerief	Jan 2013	#41
I worked until I was 71, and I would still be working now at 74,	RebelOne	Jan 2013	#44
Fine, so long as they will be prohibited from terminating anybody over 50 without cause! n/t	markpkessinger	Jan 2013	#48
They can simply make up "for cause"	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#67
Are they stupid?	Dems2002	Jan 2013	#52
They don't have to provide health care for their employees. They can just pay the penalty. nt	antigop	Jan 2013	#85
Their comments should only apply to themselves, not national policy.	freshwest	Jan 2013	#54
Rat Bastards nt	Mojorabbit	Jan 2013	#57
The scumbags attack again!	HuckleB	Jan 2013	#58
The Koch Brothers are funding this no doubt see:	flamingdem	Jan 2013	#59
Warning: I was at a Focus Group about raising retirement age to 70 and	flamingdem	Jan 2013	#60
Exactly what focus group were you a part of?	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#61
Really? How many of them will hire a 68 year old?	Zookeeper	Jan 2013	#62
I seriously don't know how I'm not going to do that anyway.	Matariki	Jan 2013	#64
Well, they all have a pension, Matariki	condoleeza	Jan 2013	#109
70 may be cool in white collar, now put that on a blue collar physically demanding job	w0nderer	Jan 2013	#66
Lots of "white collar" jobs like teaching and nursing	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#68
they have to "strengthen" the plan after all	Kingwithnothrone	Jan 2013	#72
having both teachers and nurses in my family	w0nderer	Jan 2013	#90
teaching also demands nearly round-the-clock work	wordpix	Jan 2013	#143
It wouldn't save money when people who survive to 70,	glowing	Jan 2013	#70
Of course, as long as we don't inconvenience them	Curmudgeoness	Jan 2013	#74
Publish it as America's Greediest 200 CEO Shit List	stuffmatters	Jan 2013	#75
Sounds like a Koch Brother initiative. n/t	RKP5637	Jan 2013	#76
How many here will contact their reps telling them	ProfessionalLeftist	Jan 2013	#77
Citizens reply "Drop Dead".	Historic NY	Jan 2013	#78
Who gives a shit what the "Business Roundtable" says?	ReRe	Jan 2013	#79
We don't give a shit about them, however, Obama does...	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#82
I don't think PO does care as much about...	ReRe	Jan 2013	#94
Troll alert! I expect all that was recommended	CranialRectaLoopback	Jan 2013	#80
You could just stop trolling...	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#83
Just goes to show that "business executives" are not problem solvers.	DaveJ	Jan 2013	#81
I'll get flamed, but I'm going to say it	OmahaBlueDog	Jan 2013	#87
Considered yourself officially flamed...!	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#93
For me it was a work permit @ 14 and I've worked EVERY year since then	condoleeza	Jan 2013	#107
Your story just proves my point, condoleeza..	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#112
Thanks, I'm hangin' in there	condoleeza	Jan 2013	#118
That's the easy (wrong) solution.	DaveJ	Jan 2013	#99
As long as there is age discrimination, your idea won't work	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#111
The people I know who've found work after 50 became self employed	OmahaBlueDog	Jan 2013	#114
Self-employment is NOT an option for most	duffyduff	Jan 2013	#132
First, I'm sorry to read about your situation	OmahaBlueDog	Jan 2013	#146
"Any increase in age needs to be phased in slowly"	Doctor_J	Jan 2013	#129
They're kidding, right?	Canuckistanian	Jan 2013	#88
Let's regulate their crooked butts out of existence!	another_liberal	Jan 2013	#91
What rank bullshit.	blackspade	Jan 2013	#92
First what does a exec who makes Billions worry about Americans SS	lovuian	Jan 2013	#95
It costs them 6.2 percent of their pay ...	JustABozoOnThisBus	Jan 2013	#135
aw, where's the violin?	wordpix	Jan 2013	#145
PHEW! I thought I'd HAVE to work until 75 at least, thank you sirs! may I have another???	benld74	Jan 2013	#97
Frankly, I don't think that's an awful idea	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#100
We must 'err' on retiring earlier than later.	TheProgressive	Jan 2013	#104
We already do retire earlier, in a sense	customerserviceguy	Jan 2013	#123
A few things	DaveJ	Jan 2013	#121
Thank you for your sensible posts	BeyondGeography	Jan 2013	#126
I'm confident things will change in the near future	DaveJ	Jan 2013	#130
They're the first to say we're richer than anyone; so let's lower to 55	closeupready	Jan 2013	#101
Those CEO's Just Don't Understand How Ordinary Americans Live	DallasNE	Jan 2013	#102
In response, American workers call for business leader's heads.	iemitsu	Jan 2013	#105
US retirees call for raising taxes on business executives	DBoon	Jan 2013	#108
Fuck you corporate merika!	lonestarnot	Jan 2013	#110
They should go to hell	daleo	Jan 2013	#113
+1	Blue_Tires	Jan 2013	#141
Idiots.	aquart	Jan 2013	#119
why 70? Why not 105?	olddad56	Jan 2013	#125
Excellent chance for the WH to show its populist streak	Doctor_J	Jan 2013	#127
But none of them would want to hire or employ 60 plus Americans!	Dustlawyer	Jan 2013	#134
SS Disability benefits would increase as applications explode	wishlist	Jan 2013	#136
Monkey Wrenching and Sabotage	Stainless	Jan 2013	#138
Fuck the suits!! After this LAST election, they should have the least public media amplification,	ancianita	Jan 2013	#139
when these CEO's start hiring people in their 60's, I'll listen	wordpix	Jan 2013	#142
I just emailed this article to my soon-to-be 17 year old son	steve2470	Jan 2013	#147

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