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In the discussion thread: NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns [View all]

Thu Jan 10, 2013, 04:23 PM

2. 'Specifically, what 'failed solutions?'

Since the NRA has successfully blocked any and all attempts at a rational, responsible conversation, what's he talking about? He's also setting up the false framework of "keeping children safe vs. attacking the second amendment." The brain cells of these people must be very, very lonely floating up there in their skulls.

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153 replies	Author	Time	Post
NRA ‘Disappointed’ With Biden Meeting For Proposing Restrictions On Guns [View all]	apnu	Jan 2013	OP
Translation: We didn't get what we wanted	loyalkydem	Jan 2013	#1
Exactly right.	hamsterjill	Jan 2013	#71
'Specifically, what 'failed solutions?'	The Blue Flower	Jan 2013	#2
If it is a "solution" how can it be failed?	Bandit	Jan 2013	#16
Brilliant	TinTX	Jan 2013	#78
I like this part of their statement.	atreides1	Jan 2013	#3
They are already criminals and madmen in my book.	apnu	Jan 2013	#7
Thing is, Adam Lanza was a law-abiding citizen before he opened fire.	Drunken Irishman	Jan 2013	#13
He was certainly a madman. nt	hack89	Jan 2013	#27
But could he pass...	awoke_in_2003	Jan 2013	#63
Seriously -- it just makes sense for EVERYBODY. If I were your next door	gateley	Jan 2013	#95
The problem with licensing is that it creates a registry, and anything involving govt psych testing	TinTX	Jan 2013	#97
I think the testing bias could work both ways --	gateley	Jan 2013	#99
Don't be so sure...	TinTX	Jan 2013	#100
I have to agree on the government testing being frightening.	gateley	Jan 2013	#101
And welcome to DU, TinTX!	gateley	Jan 2013	#102
Thanks for your hospitality!	TinTX	Jan 2013	#108
What's wrong with a registry?	harmonicon	Jan 2013	#145
Yeah, bias could be a problem...	awoke_in_2003	Jan 2013	#123
I think the gun show loophole is a good step. Just caught the	gateley	Jan 2013	#125
I don't oppose the idea of a "null psych eval" but I would need to know several things ...	spin	Jan 2013	#150
Like gunners in general, intransigence is making	upaloopa	Jan 2013	#4
This is a naive position	TinTX	Jan 2013	#77
Yeah, well watch and listen for a while.	upaloopa	Jan 2013	#80
That's an effective argument upaloopa	TinTX	Jan 2013	#87
I believe Gabby Giffords' new organization is going to leave the NRA in the dust	Politicub	Jan 2013	#106
I am not an NRA member, but they are not as extreme as is necessary to advance your argument....	TinTX	Jan 2013	#109
Are you really asking that question? Have you been paying attention?	Politicub	Jan 2013	#115
Why should we have curbs on high capacity magazines and ARs?	TinTX	Jan 2013	#116
So guess now grenades are passe'?	lark	Jan 2013	#118
Not a straw man- the second ammendment is about distrust of government- not massacres	TinTX	Jan 2013	#122
Use of guns by private citizens to deal with the government is	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#129
I agree with your civilized society argument	TinTX	Jan 2013	#140
I don't distrust government	Politicub	Jan 2013	#134
My worldview is based on a broad understanding of history	TinTX	Jan 2013	#139
You have no logic to "take down" as you say. You only have fear and paranoia.	Politicub	Jan 2013	#152
Watch your attitude. You're off to a crappy start.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#128
oh really?	TinTX	Jan 2013	#141
That's a very disturbing statistic, and nothing to be proud of	Turborama	Jan 2013	#81
I am not proud of it- it is what it is...	TinTX	Jan 2013	#82
We don't NEED them "to keep ourselves safe from each other"	Turborama	Jan 2013	#89
We can't effectively get them rounded up, and the Founder's distrust of government was well placed..	TinTX	Jan 2013	#91
WE. DON'T. HAVE. DESPOTISM. YOU. FOOL..........and we weren't even close even under Bush,	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#131
This post was hidden by jury decision.	TinTX	Jan 2013	#137
I'm perfectly safe in one of our nation's largest cities and I have NEVER owned a gun.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#130
talking points- really?	TinTX	Jan 2013	#138
And according to another Wiki referenced statistic	thetonka	Jan 2013	#103
That's what I wanna know...	TinTX	Jan 2013	#107
It makes me sad	thetonka	Jan 2013	#111
And that's true on both the liberal and conservative sides depending on the issue...	TinTX	Jan 2013	#113
Libertarians are just as bad as Republicans. You aren't going to last long here.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#132
Truth!	Turborama	Jan 2013	#136
Are you kidding me?	TinTX	Jan 2013	#142
Read up	demwing	Jan 2013	#149
I don't believe US has highest per capita guns.	lark	Jan 2013	#119
Got proof?	thetonka	Jan 2013	#121
FACT: WHERE THERE ARE MORE GUNS THERE IS MORE HOMICIDE	Turborama	Jan 2013	#124
80 million is definitely a minority. We need to remind them of that little fact.	kestrel91316	Jan 2013	#127
Gallup polls	TinTX	Jan 2013	#143
Awwww...I'm sure that Big Joe is just freakin' crestfallen.	BlueNoteSpecial	Jan 2013	#5
This Was Written BEFORE Meeting	SoCalMusicLover	Jan 2013	#6
really?	BainsBane	Jan 2013	#76
I'm sorry Biden did not literally kick their lobbyists in the rearend.	Hoyt	Jan 2013	#8
Delighted to hear VP Biden didn't kiss NRA's over-weened intransigent ass ~nt	99th_Monkey	Jan 2013	#9
Joe has a long history of getting on their bad side.	Jennicut	Jan 2013	#17
Any day the NRA is "disappointed" is a good day.	Chorophyll	Jan 2013	#10
K&R for this post	Drum	Jan 2013	#62
+1	Scuba	Jan 2013	#65
They poisoned the water before the meeting	Tempest	Jan 2013	#11
The NRA is a sales group.	Archae	Jan 2013	#12
Anyone that needs a gun to "protect themself" from others in America is...	DryRain	Jan 2013	#14
Agree 100%! Disarm the 810k+ LEO who always carry handguns. They are "delusional and crazy". nt	jody	Jan 2013	#19
You seem to have glossed over the "to protect themselves" part.	DryRain	Jan 2013	#22
I have a RIGHT to protect myself. LEO have a privilege granted by govt. and that govt. is not	jody	Jan 2013	#26
NO, You do NOT have that right, unless you have earned it, in a ...	DryRain	Jan 2013	#35
DryRain with 54 posts, I'll be nice and recommend you read SCOTUS decisions in DC v Heller and	jody	Jan 2013	#36
This message was self-deleted by its author	DryRain	Jan 2013	#40
You have put Jody on "full igore"	DryRain	Jan 2013	#49
I could have sworn there were assault rifles prior to 2008	TinTX	Jan 2013	#86
Thanks for the suggestion	lark	Jan 2013	#120
No right to self-defense?	NickB79	Jan 2013	#47
welcome DryRain	klyon	Jan 2013	#98
You certainly have a right to think you can protect yourself...	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#72
LanternWaste have a great day. nt	jody	Jan 2013	#73
I'm not sure what you're trying to say with this post	NickB79	Jan 2013	#46
You were doing something illegal at 17!	DryRain	Jan 2013	#48
I'll give you all the details you want	NickB79	Jan 2013	#52
Thank you Nick for posting this inconvenient bit of reality	TinTX	Jan 2013	#79
Boo Fucking Hoo	jpak	Jan 2013	#15
Problem is no one has found evidence of the cause(s) of crime. Until then neither side has the high	jody	Jan 2013	#18
Guns make it a lot easier to kill. Case closed. nt	geek tragedy	Jan 2013	#21
Wouldn't you agree that you think "that's critical"...	countryjake	Jan 2013	#23
You missed my point. The anti-RKBA crowd has no credible research that shows the number or type	jody	Jan 2013	#24
Half of all mass murders in America have occurred since the Assault Weapons Ban	AndyA	Jan 2013	#28
Please publish your conclusions in a refereed journal and have it blessed by the	jody	Jan 2013	#33
Bing is your friend.	AndyA	Jan 2013	#37
Obviously you're way over your head. Goodbye nt	jody	Jan 2013	#38
Typical.	AndyA	Jan 2013	#39
Typical	primavera	Jan 2013	#68
primavera please rebut the conclusions of the two major surveys of research on the topic, link below	jody	Jan 2013	#69
"The two"?	primavera	Jan 2013	#74
What if there were a sort of round-about-way to get to the same result,	Volaris	Jan 2013	#88
And you did not answer my question.	countryjake	Jan 2013	#32
I don't care about an answer to your question. I care about research that shows a cause & effect	jody	Jan 2013	#34
How about 20 dead children...	groundloop	Jan 2013	#45
Figures on gun ownership is all the research needed...	countryjake	Jan 2013	#50
If figures are all that matter, then consider	jody	Jan 2013	#51
And an exorbitant ammo tax on that "294 million"	countryjake	Jan 2013	#53
What credible research shows taxing ammunition will reduce murders? nt	jody	Jan 2013	#54
Common sense; raise the cost, reduce gun proliferation.	countryjake	Jan 2013	#55
Why do you insult me by alleging "prolong enactment"? Goodbye	jody	Jan 2013	#56
Because you refused to answer my very first question?	countryjake	Jan 2013	#59
well... there is undeniable evidence that all gun deaths in this country come from guns.....	bowens43	Jan 2013	#64
Please provide link to "credible research that shows the number or type of firearm causes murder."	jody	Jan 2013	#66
Actually, the NRA has been suppressing research on gun violence for decades	primavera	Jan 2013	#67
That is the ultimate dishonesty of the gun nut assholes: they suppress research with threats	alcibiades_mystery	Jan 2013	#70
That's a good point.	apnu	Jan 2013	#25
"They're coming to take our guns away!"	yorokmok	Jan 2013	#29
Yes, it is.	janx	Jan 2013	#31
Cause?	Cosmocat	Jan 2013	#57
Self-defense is a personal responsibility and individual's have a right to keep and bear arms to do	jody	Jan 2013	#58
WTF	Cosmocat	Jan 2013	#153
I know this is circumstantial evidence but...	mwooldri	Jan 2013	#114
Thanks. Don't have an answer and neither does Biden's Gun Violence Commission yet! See thread at	jody	Jan 2013	#117
Poor little babys...	Canoe52	Jan 2013	#20
Go fuck yourselves, NRA	MotherPetrie	Jan 2013	#30
we're disappointed in the betrayals by the nra	samsingh	Jan 2013	#41
NRA = Not Really Astute	SoapBox	Jan 2013	#42
p.s....oh ya, FUCK Off NRA!	SoapBox	Jan 2013	#44
any day that the nra is disappointed	choie	Jan 2013	#43
The NRA and other gun humpers can go fuck themselves.	Zoeisright	Jan 2013	#60
"...interested in having an honest conversation about what works..."	primavera	Jan 2013	#61
Lobbying needs kicked off the hill...all of it...	and-justice-for-all	Jan 2013	#75
Who would have ever thought a predominantly Caucasian, right-wing political action committee...	LanternWaste	Jan 2013	#83
Perhaps the NRA needs to change their acronym to the NARA.	olddad56	Jan 2013	#84
PR Speak translation	bl968	Jan 2013	#85
NRA's real agenda is to increase gun industry profitability nt	ErikJ	Jan 2013	#90
What Is He Talking About	DallasNE	Jan 2013	#92
Good point	stevenmitchell	Jan 2013	#112
Lead poisoning leads to gun craziness?	Dogbert22	Jan 2013	#93
poor puppies	oldandhappy	Jan 2013	#94
Good job, Joe!	gateley	Jan 2013	#96
I think my computer was hacked by NRA	wvfem	Jan 2013	#104
It's doable	stevenmitchell	Jan 2013	#110
My hate for the NRA knows no bounds	Politicub	Jan 2013	#105
It's time Democrats in power stood up to the NRA and told them where to go.	Democratopia	Jan 2013	#126
the administration needs to take down the NRA	supercats	Jan 2013	#133
If the NRA is disappointed it makes me happy	Politicub	Jan 2013	#135
It's my right to have nuclear-armed cruise missiles.	harmonicon	Jan 2013	#144
Anything that disappoints the NRA works for me.	Shadowflash	Jan 2013	#146
If the NRA is disappointed, I feel hopeful	tavalon	Jan 2013	#147
My response to them is...	davidpdx	Jan 2013	#148
maybe, just maybe.........	TheGov97	Jan 2013	#151

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